I may not be an expert but I would bet that I probably know more than you gardner2x. You Gardner guys need to not take stuff so personally. All I'm saying is I have to see T.J. beat Gilman before I can actually believe it. T.J. is good, but I haven't seen him win tournaments like Fargo. Maybe if more kids wrestled the summer circuit too and proved them selves in front of the whole country then I guess there wouldn't be any argument here.