Originally Posted By: MaxPain
Gardner2x, no it doesn't make Stokes one of the best in the world. It makes you sorely mistaken. Stokes is one of the best in Ks but Gilman is on another level.

Does the fact that Stokes doesn't do summer wrestling mean he can't beat Gilman. No. But it's just not a believable or a reasonable argument. It doesn't take a expert to know that. Just someone with common sense.

I will say this! If that were true! Then TJ Stokes needs to be moved to the #1 recuit in KS and John Smith, Rob Koll and Cael Sanderson need to get the Stokes family # on their speed dial!


Eye witness testimony...

TJ did beat Gilman at a camp match in Iowa. The color commentary reports that Gilman just got finished with a 2.5 hour workout with the Hawkeye team. Gilman was also cutting for Fargo and weighed 124. Was TJ at 135ish? As with any story, there are details on each side. Bottom line is, it did happen. He intends to go 126 at Gardner. Maybe TJ can pull to get there? Hathaway plans to go 132.


Eric Johnson


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