Randy,
I don't know who you are, and honestly don't really care who you are, but I find it funny that you come on to this thread out of nowhere and call people idiots. Butch has been a part of wrestling in Western Kansas for many years. And if you have ever been to a state kids tournament, I am sure you have seen him there, as he volunteers his time year after year to this great sport, so remember this quote next time before you start calling names.

"It is better to be quiet and ignorant than to open your mouth and remove all doubt".
Anonymous

Lance Geyer