Damn, I hate it when I mis speak. I thought you were 4x'er. That being said reducing awards in a struggling sport is not the way to increase participation. I am all for a grand state to determine who is #1 as an individual as well as a team, but don't see the harm in placing 6 at State. There are a lot more forces trying to destroy this country then kshsaa. They are just focusing on making sure Kansas is not competitive as a national powerhouse in any sport other then swimming.