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Best tournament in State

Posted By: voice of reason

Best tournament in State - 01/08/07 03:19 PM

Who has the best tournament? It is hard to beat Newton from top to bottom.

Best Competition? My thought is this year, Derby, other years Newton.

Best Organization? I have been impressed with several here in the past but have to give nods to Garden City.

Best Facility? I'll assure you it is not Newton, for those that thought Derby was bad, a fan can't get a decent seat at this tournament. For spectators, Newton is awful, but regarding the best, I haven't been to all of the tournaments in state, but I do like the facilities at Clay Center.

Other Best? Open up, share here, would be interesting to see. I'll throw in closing championship round, easily goes to Newton, it has the feal of a national level tournament.

Posted By: Scarecrow_103

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/08/07 04:30 PM

I would think that Basehor and BVNW have to rank up there someplace. Good competition and well ran also.
Posted By: Nate Naasz

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/08/07 05:34 PM

Beloit Invite

4 mats

BELOIT, COLBY, SALINA SOUTH, SILVER LAKE, Lincoln, ABILENE, MANHATTAN, PLAINVILLE, OBERLIN, CONCORDIA, CLAY CENTER, STOCKTON, MINNEAPOLIS, MARYSVILLE, SABETHA, WELLINGTON, BELLEVILLE, SMITH CENTER, Hoxie, Hill City
Posted By: chewie

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/08/07 07:16 PM

I thought the Beloit tourny only used three mats?

The only problems I have with the Newton TOC is the lack of seats, which has already been mentioned and the high prices for concessions. Other than that it is a great tournament. Nobody has a better finals set-up that I have seen.
Posted By: fatoldman

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/08/07 07:26 PM

Beloit started using four mats last year. It is always a smooth running tournament.
Posted By: Nate Naasz

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/08/07 08:18 PM

Did a quick count this afternoon and there are 49 ranked wrestlers who will be at Beloit. I could have missed a few.
Posted By: lil_sharpe_007

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/08/07 08:56 PM

Garden City---Rocky Welton Wrestling Invitational
Posted By: LancerLou

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/08/07 09:18 PM

I did a quick count of Kansas ranked wrestlers who should be at the Basehor Bobcat Classic and came up with an even 70.

29 from 4A
15 from 5A
26 from 6A

Glenwood, IA will also be at Basehor.
Posted By: resslnfan

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/08/07 09:30 PM

Always a well run tourney, Basehor will also showcase about 19 number 1 ranked wrestlers from my quick count.
Posted By: wrestle007

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/08/07 11:06 PM

as far as competition goes basehor is 2nd to none in my opinion.
Posted By: zachman140321a

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/08/07 11:14 PM

best facilities holton
Posted By: chewie

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/08/07 11:19 PM

quick count of the Newton stats.

94 ranked wrestlers
19 kids ranked 1st
11 returning state champs


I just wish that that both tournaments weren't on the same weekend.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/09/07 04:21 AM

Basehor stats:

92 ranked wrestlers
20 ranked 1st
4 returning state champs
+ Glenwood, IA
Posted By: Nate Naasz

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/11/07 01:30 AM

Beloit Invite Schedule of Events
Friday, January 19, 2007
2:00 pm 1st Round (4 mats)
4:00 pm Quarterfinals (4 mats)
6:00 pm 1st round Consolation (4 mats)
Weigh in after completion of weight class

Saturday, January 20, 2007
9:30 am Wrestlebacks 2nd Round (4 mats)
11:00 am Semi-finals (2 mats)
1:00 pm Consolation Quarter Finals (4 mats)
2:30 pm Consolation Semi-Finals (4 mats)
4:00 pm Consolation Finals (4 mats) [3rd, 5th]
5:30 pm Championship Finals (1 mat)


Posted By: The_Cards_Rule

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/11/07 11:20 AM

you cant beat Basehor in competion and isnt that what its all about
Posted By: NWKFAN#1

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/11/07 04:26 PM

I would say Newton's competition is just as good as BL.
Posted By: wrasslinfan

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/11/07 09:13 PM

So how is basehor so tuff what first ranked team besides st thomas is there come on you have bishop carrol derby hutch ark city and perry ok norton so compare who is going to be at this basehor not even in the same breath just because you have a bunch of teams doesn't make it a best tourny selection. so come on with your talkin crap.
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/12/07 02:24 AM

wrasslin

Here is some information on ranked teams. Personally I think both tournaments look about even with talent and I wish I could watch both of them. The boys at both tournaments better lace up their boots pretty tight.

Newton Tournament #1 Ranked Teams
Norton (1A,2A,3A,) & Bishop Carroll (5A)
Basehor Tournament #1 Ranked Team
Andale (4A)


Basehor Tournament has 14 teams ranked in the Kansas Rankings
Plus the Glenwood, Iowa team (26 total teams)
Newton Tournament has 13 ranked teams in the Kansas Rankings
Plus Perry Oklahoma (27 total teams)

Hopefully i didn't miss any but this was a quick check of the competition.

1A,2A,3A Rankings

Newton 1st: Norton

2nd:

3rd:

Basehor Tournament 4th: Silver Lake

5th:

6th:

7th:

8th:

9th:

10th:



4A Rankings

TEAM RANKINGS
1-Andale, 30 pts/6 ranked (PRATT REGIONAL) – Basehor Tournament
2-Clay Center, 27 pts/10 ranked (HOLTON REGIONAL) Newton
3-Labette County, 26 pts/7 ranked (DOUGLASS REGIONAL)
4-Rose Hill, 25 pts/5 ranked (DOUGLASS REGIONAL)
5-Andover Central, 22 pts/5 ranked (DOUGLASS REGIONAL)
6-Goodland, 21 pts/8 ranked (PRATT REGIONAL)
7-Fort Scott, 19 pts/5 ranked (BALDWIN REGIONAL) Basehor Tournament
8-Colby, 17 pts/9 ranked (PRATT REGIONAL) Newton
9-Paola, 17 pts/4 ranked (BALDWIN REGIONAL) Basehor Tournament
10-Santa Fe Trail, 16 pts/5 ranked (BALDWIN REGIONAL) Basehor Tournament
11-Pittsburg, 16 pts/4 ranked (DOUGLASS REGIONAL) Basehor Tournament
12-Baldwin, 15 pts/4 ranked (BALDWIN REGIONAL) Basehor Tournament
13-Columbus, 15 pts/3 ranked (DOUGLASS REGIONAL) Basehor Tournament
14-Chapman, 14 pts/3 ranked (BALDWIN REGIONAL)
15t-Abilene, 13 pts/4 ranked (BALDWIN REGIONAL) Basehor Tournament
15t-Wellington, 13 pts/4 ranked (PRATT REGIONAL)
17-Royal Valley, 11 pts/5 ranked (HOLTON REGIONAL)
18t-Augusta, 11 pts/3 ranked (DOUGLASS REGIONAL)
18t-Concordia, 11 pts/3 ranked (HOLTON REGIONAL)
20-Eudora, 8 pts/6 ranked (BALDWIN REGIONAL) Basehor Tournament
21t-Prairie View, 8 pts/5 ranked (BALDWIN REGIONAL)
21t-Chanute, 8 pts/5 ranked (DOUGLASS REGIONAL)


5A State Rankings

1. Bishop Carroll Newton
2. St. Thomas Aquinas Basehor Tournament
3. Arkansas City Newton
4. Hutchinson Newton
5. Gardner-Edgerton Newton
6. Emporia Newton
7. Great Bend
8. Kapaun-Mt. Carmel
9. Valley Center Newton
10. Shawnee Heights

6A Rankings

1st:

Newton 2nd:Derby

Basehor Tournament3rd: Garden City

Basehor Tournament 4th: Shawnee Mission East

Newton 5th: Wichita NW

Newton 6th: Wichita South

Basehor Tournament 7th: Lawrence Free State

8th:

Newton 9th: Manhattan

Basehor Tournament 10th: Blue Valley
Posted By: GO GATORS GO

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/13/07 04:26 PM

4A state is the toughest tourny in the state. ha ha
Posted By: wrasslinfan

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/13/07 05:06 PM

the best 4a team andale got next to last at ark city tourny real good
Posted By: smokeycabin

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/14/07 02:03 AM

I think they only have 8 guys. Hard to score points in a 7 team tournament with those numbers. Also, Andale's lineup must have been missing a few horses back on December 2, at the Arkcity tournament. Their guys will wrestle with anybody. They can compete in larger team tournaments with fewer numbers on their team.

Just a couple of guys that must have not wrestled at Arkcity

Sam Thoman 152 13-0 (going into Basheor)
Judd Schroeder 160 13-0 (going into Basehor)
Posted By: wrasslinfan

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/14/07 05:23 AM

Well the horses they were missing would have had to wrestle schroeder vs beard that would have been ugly and the other goddard kid was 152 champ vs thoman never even heard of him but good job on they will wrestle with anybody yeah they might wrestle doesn't mean they will win....
Posted By: N. Zahm

Re: Best tournament in State - 01/15/07 01:39 PM

Results from any state tournament will always turn out different than they will at a tournament like they Ark City tounament. The type of competition at a local tournament is not the same as it is at a state tournament. There may be certain kids that could win matches or even place at a regular season tournament that may not score anything at the state tournament. If you have a team of four state champions only, you will have close the same amount of points at the state tournament as you will at Ark City. When other teams at the local tournament have kids that may place and score points for their team that will not even make it to state. Therefore they lose those teampoints. The outcome of the team champion in a tournament largely amounts to the level of competition at the tournament.
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