Detmer from Bishop Carol

Can someone let me know how Detmer from Bishop Carol has been wrestling this season? I saw he won the BC tournament. He has gone to Indianapolis the past couple years with us and I knew he was going to be good. Great kid who is a lot of fun to watch. He is in a tough weight class.

His only loss was to a defending oklahoma state champ. He won the carroll tourny 18-3 in the finals.

By word of mouth I got bad info opps.

Yea, at the seeding meeting at Bishop Carroll Coach F. said that Detmer had been beat by a State Champion from Oklahoma! Hmmmmm! Who cares.... Detmer was a four seed who beat the number one seed in a great match. I watched him work out at Wichita South with the Highschool National team members that worked out with me and I knew that day how good he was going to be.
I wish him good luck and I am looking forward to four years of watching this young talent mature!

Ouch Church. Are you accusing me of embellishing at a seeding meeting? Ok I did say that, but in my defense , after Detmer's loss I was talking to the Catoosa coach and he said, "don't worry about it, that kid is a state champ." I will admit that I should be able to back up my wild claims at seeding meetings but I was going on that one quote. But you are right. Detmer is a good talent who has a good career in front of him. You can always count on this forum discover the truth.

all in good fun! everything in good fun!

Yea I watched Detmer beat fisher and then take it to the kid in the finals I told me coach to vote for him for outstanding wrestler but little Trent Cox got the ticket.

Too bad Kastor moved. He'd kick
Detmer's butt.

He's tough this year--took some points
from the NJCAA champion at an
exhibition match.

no he wouldn't

You have no idea

we'll find out who is really better. kastor is coming to newton with bishop lynch and he is wrestling 130. if i were to bet on it, i would take kastor by 5.
just a thought if kastor didnt move, how good would bishop carroll be?
125- detmer
130- kastor
135- mcdonald
140- arnold
145- rosenhammer
152- loos
that team would be ungodly. a possibly of 5 in the finals at state out of 6
wow, its really too bad that he moved

Just my opinion but I cant think of a class or a wieght that could possibly any tougher than 5a-130. There's going to be some great matchups as the season goes on.

wowowowow...
NO WAY that kastor could beat detmer. NO way. and he wouldnt make it to the finals.
Arnold and Rosenhammer didnt even qualify for state! no way u can put none qualifiers in the finals!... IF ANYTHING, Kastor would have made BC a LITTLE better Dual team and thats it.

ALSO....6A 119 is by far tougher than 5A 130. God Bless and Merry Christmas!

o mannnn
is kastor really with Lynch?? i thot dak adamson was at 130 for them and ranked nationally ??? if he really is there
i cant wait to see that match-up
i wish West was at Newton..
that would be a terrific bracket

Who all do you consider tough at 5A 130lbs. and who do you think will win it?

well there is Deshazer, Detmer, Godfrey, I guess thats pretty much it now that i look at it
I would obviously give it to Deshazer, its hard to go against a 3-timer

Adamson is ranked, but not very high.

Adamson is ranked but down around
#20 to #25. Kastor has finished as high
as #5 in a national tournament.

Kastor is not nationally ranked, here is the site, look for yourselves.

http://www.wrestlingusa.com/02%20wusa%20web%20root/highschoolbest/hsbestallclass.html

There are a number of rankings services, it is possible that he could be ranked on one of the other services.

Furthermore, Kastor beat the kid--handily--
who beat Detmer, so some people have their 911
a little skewed. But nobody's taking anything away from Detmer. He's just a youngster,
though, with a lot of wrestling ahead of him. The veterans know a lot that the rookies don't know yet. That's just the nature of experience; look at the history at Carroll of wrestlers who
didn't look all that great at first, but ended up
in the state finals by their junior and senior years.

Wow Kastor beat the kid who beat Detmer, when where,and who. No where can you find results like that. At least not this year or last. Unless you know where the results are published for viewing. I am sure we would all like to see that.

Newton last year, I think.

If those rankings from
Wrestlingusa are so great, how come
Deshazer is only ranked 18th? That's crap.
Last summer they had Shumate ranked
above Seth Metzler--that was crap, too,
and Kastor wasn't ranked at all because he didn't
go to any national tournaments because
he got sick. But he beat Shumate in
Derby two years ago when Shumate did
have a high national ranking.

So--take these rankings with a large
grain of salt, and believe your own eyes.

Well lets see Deshazer did not place at nationals, neither did Metzler. Where did Kastor wrestle last year? I dont remember seeing him anywhere. Now for the big one, Detmer is not the same wrestler as in the past, he is a very much improved wrestler. My son lost to him 2 years ago at state in a very close match, I dont see that being the case this year if they meet up. I believe that Detmer would probably beat him pretty good. As for Kastor noone has heard of him on the mat I think for two years now. I do agree that Tristen should be ranked higher.
Always remember 1 thing, any wrestler can be beat at any given time.

Im not sure if detmer can beat triston but he does have one big advantage, the two guys in the wieghts above him for carroll are amoung the best in the state. Anyone who has wrestled can tell ya that having that type of competition in practice everyday is a big help.

enough with the talk about kastor vs detmer. it hasnt happened yet, not to mention this is wrestling, what one guy does to another doesnt mean anything. in two days at derby they will be in the same bracket. so we will find out who is really better...

Is Bishop Lynch at going to Derby or Newton?

I looked on the tounament website and it shows them going to newton but not derby, but reading this post it sounds like there are a lot of people who think they will be there. Does anyone no for sure?

I don't think Lynch is going to Derby
this year.

Rats. USC lost because Texas got a bogus touchdown....

Afraid not. They would have scored even without the lateral and they got burned on an earlier call not being given credit for an obvious completion. It all worked out in the wash and Texas dug down and beat USC and won the National Title. That is it.

Well, you should know (????)

I am sorry, I did not mean to sound like a know it all. I just hate USC and root for the Big 12 teams. Also, I was just telling it like I saw it.

yeah that sounds like a good summarry of the game to me

Naturally, there was always the possibility
that Texas would have won even without
a couple of questionable calls or no-calls--
but I am biased because I have two degrees from USC : )--but back to wrestling, did those wrestlers injured in football get back into action for the most part?

I understand, it makes perfect sense to me.

And yes, back to wrestling. Detmer once again proved his worth winning the Derby. Another wow performance.