KSHSAA Rule 30 Art. 2
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Rule 30
Art. 2: A student who is enrolled at the start of a season of sport, must be a member of the squad for the majority of the scheduled varsity contests, in order to be eligible for post-season competition. (See Rule 14-1-1, Bona Fide Student; and Rule 22-1-3, Outside Competition.)
My understanding of this rule is if your team has a possible 20 matches per wrestler during a season. Then in order to participate at regionals and/or state an athlete must compete at least 11 times in varsity matches. Is this a correct assumption? What happens if you have two kids going back and forth all year in wrestle-offs and one beats the other right before regionals and only has 9 total varsity matches? Or someone goes down injured right before regionals and the team is trying to fill that spot with a JV guy who has no varsity matches.
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Re: KSHSAA Rule 30 Art. 2
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it doesnt matter they dont have to participate in any tournament... The rule only require that the wrestler be on the team for half the season. ALSO with the new certification, (all wrestlers must be certified by Jan. 13) That pretty much takes that rule away.
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Re: KSHSAA Rule 30 Art. 2
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Travis,
So if a team has a possible 6 duals from Jan 13th up to regionals does an athlete have to particpate in 4 of those duals in order to qualify for regionals/state. The certification rule deals with weight - the participation rule deals with the number of competitions. I think.
Rule 30
Art. 2: A student who is enrolled at the start of a season (or half season) of sport, must be a member of the squad for the majority (over half) of the scheduled varsity contests, in order to be eligible for post-season competition
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Re: KSHSAA Rule 30 Art. 2
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u just have to be a member for half of the competitions... u dont have to participate in half... so as long as the wrestler(s) where a member of the team for half the year or more they are eligible to participate at regionals.
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can a jv wrestle in regionals now. because 13 yrs ago when i was a sophmore me and a junior shared a varsity spot all yr. beating each other out all most every other week or 2 weeks if i remember right but because he was varsity the last week before regionals i didn't even get to challenge for the shot at regionals.
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Travius,
I am not sure how it has anything to do with our Jan. 13 certification date. But I think you are correct that it probably does mean that you just have to be a member of the squad and not necessarily participate in the meets for the majority of the varsity meets.
What if a wrestler misses the majority of the meets due to injury? Is the wrestler still considered a member of the squad during injury time off? I would think probably that they would still be eligible.
What if the wrestler is on probation due to grades or discipline reasons? Does probation time count towards meeting this half of the season requirement? My guess would be no on probation time but I do not know for sure.
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Re: KSHSAA Rule 30 Art. 2
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This is the other part of Rule 30 it says see Rule 14
Rule 14 BONA FIDE STUDENT Section l: General Regulations (apply to grades 7- 12) Art. 1: In order to be eligible for participation, the student must be a bona fi de undergraduate member of that school and in good standing. (See Rule 22-1-3, Outside Competition and Rule 30-2-2, Seasons of Activities.) In order to participate in practice, the student must be a bona fi de undergraduate of that school and one who is eligible or has the possibility of eligibility. Art. 2: A student who is under penalty of suspension or whose character or conduct brings discredit to the school or to the student, as determined by the principal, is not in good standing and is ineligible for a period of time as specifi ed by the principal. Art. 3: A student who uses any form of tobacco, illegal drugs, alcoholic beverages, etc., at school events is not in good standing. Art. 4: A student who uses anabolic steroids would be ineligible for interscholastic competition until such time as medical evidence can be presented that his/her system is free of that drug. Art. 5: A student shall not be permitted to make up work after the close of the semester for the purpose of becoming eligible. A “condition” or an “incomplete” shall count as a failure. However, should a student have an excused absence for day(s) missed, completing such work per school policy (Illustration: two days for every day missed) would not be considered as “make up” per se. Summer school is not to be used for making up credit defi ciencies for the purpose of becoming eligible. Art. 6: If the student competes under an assumed name, he or she shall be ineligible in all sports.
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Re: KSHSAA Rule 30 Art. 2
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This rule was actually used last year at regionals. When we talked to Rick Bowden he make the ruling real clear. If u count up all your competition points (for most teams 30) and if the student athlete was on the team while the team participated in half of the points (15 points) then they are eligible to wrestle at regionals regardless of the number of events the wrestler in question actually competed in.
The reason why I brought up certification is because this year ALL wrestlers who did NOT certify by Jan 13. (without doctors excuse) season was terminated on that date. Since failure to certify on or before Jan. 13 terminated a wrestlers season any kids wanting to come out for the team after this date simply cant. For most teams schedule (this is an assumption) if your on the team as of Jan 13 you would prob be part of the team for atleast half the year.
Bowden also stated as per rule 14, there can be periods of team in which a student athlete can not be considered a member of the team. Example if a student athlete is in out of school suspension then any competitions that happen during that time can not count.
I hoped I helped out a little.
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That helps a little. I guess if there is a question a school Coach or AD might want to get a ruling in writing from the KSHSAA prior to regionals.
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The thing is, most schools either don't know of this rule or don't understand it. A few years ago, Ulysses had a kid that was suspended for a violation and was not allowed to go to practice for an extended time by his parents. He returned on a Monday, won the Garden City tournament, and beat the eventual 4A state champion there before it was discovered that he had he come back into the practice room two days late to be eligible for the post season. No one but Coach Prieto (who is now an asst. at Garden) knew of the violation, and he had enough integrity to do the right thing. I often wonder how many times this is over looked.
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Re: KSHSAA Rule 30 Art. 2
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This is all made way to confusing. The problem with to many rules is it takes more rules to make it clear. It's rediculous. If the kid is legaly enrolled in school because of a legit move or something let the kid compete. The reason we have to have all these rules is because there are to many whiners. Who cares if a kid moves!!!! If the kid moves for serious personal reasons then give the kid a break. If a kid moves for athletic reasons so be it. If he is moving becaue of the coach then why would a coach even want him.
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Re: KSHSAA Rule 30 Art. 2
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this rule has nothin to do with moving... so i would say you are confused
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