Wrestling Talk Forums supported
USA Wrestling-Kansas KWCA Wrestling Talk Forums supported & maintained by USA Wrestling-Kansas USAW USA Wrestling-Kansas 
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
KSHSAA Growth Allowance and Certification Date! #114211 12/07/07 09:10 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,443
R
RichardDSalyer Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
R
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,443
KSHSAA Wrestling Rules Interpretations!

Growth allowances and certification dates:
I’d like to review the specifics concerning the certification deadline date and growth allowances –

The certification deadline is, January 12, 2008 the two (2) pound growth allowance will not go into effect UNTIL AFTER January 12, 2008. The two (2) pound growth allowance will not go into effect until Monday, January 14.

If a wrestler is certifying during a school team competition weigh-in on January 12, they must weigh in at scratch weight – they do not get to certify at scratch weight plus any additional weight due to consecutive days of competition allowance.

When a wrestler “certifies” it must be at scratch weight.

Wrestler’s that have been given approval in writing by the KSHSAA (due to injury, illness or emergency) to certify after January 12, 2008 MUST STILL WEIGH IN AT SCRATCH WEIGHT when they certify.


Richard D. Salyer
Re: KSHSAA Growth Allowance and Certification Date! [Re: RichardDSalyer] #114217 12/07/07 04:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,443
R
RichardDSalyer Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
R
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,443
A major clarification pertaining to certification of a wrestler’s minimum weight class under KSHSAA policy and procedure needs to be made. The current interpretation and application of certification is best explained by use of two examples:

Example 1: Wrestler A at the second school team competition weigh-in (which is prior to the Winter break) wants to certify his minimum weight. He presents a urine sample that the assessor deems is hydrated. He steps on the scales and weighs in at 151.8 pounds. He is now certified at 152 pounds. He continues to participate in practices and meets during the first semester and early into the second semester and his weight continues to drop (due to better dieting and weight management and physical activity) to 144 pounds. At a school team competition weigh-in after the winter break, he wants to try to certify at 145 pounds. He presents a urine sample that shows he is hydrated, he immediately then steps on the scales and weighs in at 144.7 pounds. Can he now be certified at 145 pounds?” The current KSHSAA interpretation is that “Yes, he can now certify at this lower weight.” IMPORTANT REMINDER: The KSHSAA provision that in order for a wrestler to wrestle at their minimum/certified weight in the State Tournament series, a wrestler must have a minimum of one-half of their total competition weigh-ins at their minimum certified weight prior to the state tournament series, a wrestler still has to meet this provision in order to compete at this later minimum certified weight class. If the wrestler certifies at a lower weight class but it is later in the competitive season, he may not be able to compete in the state tournament series because the total number of competition weigh-ins they participated in prior to the state tournament series (prior to the regional competition weigh-in) does not meet the one-half requirement.

Example 2: Wrestler A at the second school team competition weigh-in (which is prior to the Winter break) wants to certify his minimum weight. He presents a urine sample that the assessor deems is hydrated. He steps on the scales and weighs in at 151.8 pounds. He is now certified at 152 pounds. He continues to participate in practices and meets and his weight continues to drop due to better dieting and weight management to 144 pounds. At a school team competition weigh-in after the winter break, he wants to try to certify at 145 pounds. He can not provide a urine sample that shows he is hydrated but he weighs in at 144.7 pounds. Is his season over? NO, he is still certified at 152 pounds. Since he could not provide a urine sample showing that he is hydrated, he could not certify at 145 pounds, BUT because he was originally certified at 152 pound class he is still eligible to participate in wrestling.

The board in their discussions did give some flexibility to “certification” which does not run counter to the basic concepts the weight-management committee supports. The idea of essentially permitting “re-certification” of a wrestler’s minimum weight class allows wrestlers to certify early in the season, continue to work on weight management and still certify later at a lower weight provided they can still keep hydrated. The “safety factor” of this interpretation is that if a wrestler is going to wrestle at their “minimum certified weight” for the state tournament series, the wrestler still has to have a minimum of one-half of their competition weigh-ins at that weight class prior to the regional weigh-in. This approach also serves somewhat as a “safety valve” by allowing a wrestler to certify early in the season and if they can’t get to a lower weight and present a hydrated urine sample for a later certification weigh-in, they can essentially “re-certify”. And it will certainly minimize the chances that their season ends on January 13.


Richard D. Salyer
Re: KSHSAA Growth Allowance and Certification Date! [Re: RichardDSalyer] #114261 12/08/07 11:29 PM
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 21
B
big dawg Offline
Junior Member
Offline
Junior Member
B
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 21
Why not give the 2 pounds on January 1? Why make kids cut weight after the holidays and a dead week?

Re: KSHSAA Growth Allowance and Certification Date! [Re: big dawg] #114271 12/09/07 01:32 AM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 597
Wyatt Bechtel Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 597
So that they have more time to certify.


Moderated by  Nate Naasz, RedStorm 

Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 175 guests, and 4 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
bvswwrestling, CoachFitzOS, Dluce, Shawn Russell, CorbinPickerill
12302 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums10
Topics36,088
Posts250,716
Members12,302
Most Online1,305
Mar 13th, 2025
Top Posters(All Time)
usawks1 8,595
smokeycabin 6,248
Aaron Sweazy 5,261
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.2
(Release build 20190702)
PHP: 7.2.34 Page Time: 0.030s Queries: 14 (0.003s) Memory: 0.7692 MB (Peak: 0.8571 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2025-07-10 02:11:36 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS