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tulsa nationals and novice #155657 01/12/10 11:39 AM
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Does anyone know if they release then entries to theses tournaments early or not?

Re: tulsa nationals and novice [Re: matman1976] #155658 01/12/10 12:21 PM
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The entries will be released in the next couple of days.


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Re: tulsa nationals and novice [Re: Beeson] #155671 01/12/10 02:36 PM
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Thank you!

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Re: tulsa nationals and novice [Re: GarateKids] #155739 01/13/10 02:38 AM
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what about the novice entries

Re: tulsa nationals and novice [Re: matman1976] #155766 01/13/10 01:42 PM
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wow the 8 under 70 is loaded with talent. Havent seen a few of those kids but have seen some of the names. Sappington and Gamble and Dickerson are probably the top of that bracket. Guess my son better show up this time. Good luck to all the Kansas Wrestlers going.


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Re: tulsa nationals and novice [Re: bockman] #155775 01/13/10 02:16 PM
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Scott i would put Assad up there to . Gamble and him had a pretty good battle at kick off. Luke is already alittle nervous.Good luck to Brady and Troy, I will not be able to go i'm sending the boys with the wife

Re: tulsa nationals and novice [Re: Bowen] #155778 01/13/10 02:35 PM
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Gamble is definately the one to beat. I have never seen an 8/under with such a combination of talent,aggression & work ethic. My 12 yer old feels pretty good when he scores on him at practice. Good luck to all!


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Re: tulsa nationals and novice [Re: PatrickCavanaugh] #155891 01/14/10 01:34 AM
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Re: tulsa nationals and novice [Re: SEKMan] #155897 01/14/10 02:29 AM
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when or will they post the brackets for tulsa online?


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Re: tulsa nationals and novice [Re: GarateKids] #155903 01/14/10 02:57 AM
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Brackets and seeds have not been posted online in the past. You get to find out when you get there.


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Re: tulsa nationals and novice [Re: Beeson] #156353 01/17/10 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted By: Beeson
Brackets and seeds have not been posted online in the past. You get to find out when you get there.


Entries are posted now with seeds. I assume all kids not seeded will just be randomly drawn in. Quite a few Kansas kids drew a seed. Good luck to all see ya there.


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Re: tulsa nationals and novice [Re: dagwood] #156386 01/17/10 01:07 PM
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If a kid has a number before his name on the entries page that is his seed.

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question for those of you that wrestle the national levels. how do they seed the kids. In my boys bracket we have 2 ks kids that beat several seeded kids at the ted anderson and ironman tournaments. do they not take that into effect or are they seeded strictly by the national tournaments.


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Re: tulsa nationals and novice [Re: bockman] #156454 01/17/10 06:45 PM
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Scott,

Fighting that one myself. My guess is that they don't look outside of OK to seed. I think the OK coaches try to manipulate it so that their boys avoid the unknown and try to put out of state kids against each other. I emailed Roller to plead my case about the seeding. Waiting for a reply on that.


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I believe Roller uses placement and participation at his tourneys mainly. Correct me if I am wrong. Seems like you have to work pretty hard, meaning go to a lot of his tourneys, before you "earn" a seed. At least that has been our experience.

Re: tulsa nationals and novice [Re: doug747] #156461 01/17/10 08:51 PM
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I would bet they give more consideration to OK kids because Dylan is seeded below an OK kid he beat out of the kickoff classic on his way to a 3rd place finish. The kid finished 1st at Amarillo Nationals and 2nd at JOC so I am sure that was there justification.

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Darren Newton
Re: tulsa nationals and novice [Re: dagwood] #156464 01/17/10 09:39 PM
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Believe it or not, there are also people that embellish their kids' records as well when they send in seeding info. We ran into some of the same issues you are seeing.

Re: tulsa nationals and novice [Re: doug747] #156465 01/17/10 09:44 PM
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good to hear that from you guys. Well lets just hope that all the Kansas kids kick some butt and hopefully they will start giving us the credit we deserve. Will be watching the 8 unders pretty closely and hope to see and talk to some of you coaches. Good luck to all Kansas kids.


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Re: tulsa nationals and novice [Re: bockman] #156466 01/17/10 09:46 PM
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I was looking at a few of the 10u seeds - a lot of them were not from Ks or Ok.

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