Classification Change Proposal 1A,2A, - 22A , etc
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http://www.kshsaa.org/BODAgendaAP.pdfKSHSAA BODA Agenda April 23-24, 2010 Meeting Plans to change classification 1A, 2A, 3A, 4A1, 4A2, 5A, 6A, 7A, 8A, 9A 10A 11A 12A, etc. Go to to this link if you disagree or agree and voice your opinion. http://www.kshsaa.org/BODAgendaAP.pdfI DISAGREE STRONGLY!
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Re: Classification Change Proposal 1A,2A, - 22A , etc
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Re: Classification Change Proposal 1A,2A, - 22A , etc
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Suggest members of the Frontier League and/or NCKL are the ones who should be contacted for clarification and explanation.
KSHSAA Staff ARE NOT responsible for this proposal and HAVE NO VOTE for or against it.
Those who do vote--the members of the exec board--have already been posted.
Greg Mann Manhattan, KS
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Re: Classification Change Proposal 1A,2A, - 22A , etc
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For the Frontier League proposal, contact David Morford, DeSoto Principal (913) 667-6250; dmorford@usd232.org
NCKL proposal: Mike Adams, Clay Center principal (785) 632-2131; mikeadams@usd379.org
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Re: Classification Change Proposal 1A,2A, - 22A , etc
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Kansas State High School Activities Association BOARD OF DIRECTORS AGENDA MEETING LOCATION�KSHSAA OFFICE, 601 SW Commerce Place, Topeka Kansas Friday, April 23, 2010�4 p.m. (hearings and discussion only) Saturday, April 24, 2010�9 a.m. (final action and Executive Board elections)
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Re: Classification Change Proposal 1A,2A, - 22A , etc
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people this is a huge problem!!!!!! Are classes are watered down enough we r going to now have 8 state champs per weight that takes away the whole meaning of state champ! something has to be done this is not good !!!!!!! People who have the power step forward and do not let this pass! KSHSAA needs to learn its about the kids and not about the money they could make with everybody at 8 different sights. How bout you combine 6a and 5a, put all private schools in there own class and have 4a and 123a sounds better to me
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Re: Classification Change Proposal 1A,2A, - 22A , etc
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The left hand does not know what the right hand it doing!!!! Did everyone realize there is a bill in the KS state house right now. I believe it's #5778 but I could be wrong on the exact number. Anyway a proposal is being debated to make all school districts consolidate until they have at least 10,000 students. That is right 10,000!!! That means all of Leavenworth Co would be one school district if approved. Leavenworth, Lansing, Basehor, tonganoxie, and maybe I am missing one would all be one district. The goal is to cut out all the overlap of management, boards, etc and increase purchasing power, etc. Now I don't know that this will pass, and I would actually say I don't think it will, but something is coming to help schools with the budget issues they are facing. They are going to use virtual schools, etc to try to offset distance issues. Wow talk about shock the system.
Now compare that to the KHSHAA plan. Sounds like we might only have 1 class when we are done. I would love that from a competition standpoint. I will hold my comment from a education standpoint. I do know schools have to do something or they are going bankrupt. It also would not address private schools.
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Re: Classification Change Proposal 1A,2A, - 22A , etc
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There aren't enough private schools in Kansas to create a seperate class. Looking from a wrestling stand point since this is a wrestling talk forum, private schools had little influence as a team in the 2010 state tournaments. In 6A, no schools placed in the top ten. In 5A, Kapaun took 7th and STA took 10th. 4A, St. James tied for 6th and in 321A, TMP tied for 10th. Prior to last year, St. James or TMP where never in the top 10. None of these schools placed in the top 5. Where do people think that the private schools have such an advantage? These facts don't seem to support it. As said before, we don't need more classes!
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Re: Classification Change Proposal 1A,2A, - 22A , etc
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Here is modest proposal for Peace The largest schools will be competing agains each other. The small schools will be competing against each other.
BIG SCHOOL CLASS Add 16 largest 5a schools to 6A making class of 48 of the largest schools.
these all move to Big Class Hutchinson 977 Emporia 927 Gardner-Edgerton 864 Kansas City-Wyandotte 859 Kansas City-Turner 859 Wichita-West 841 Topeka-Seaman 840 Salina-South 822 Wichita-Bishop Carroll 819 Tecumseh-Shawnee Heights 815 Overland Park-St. Thomas Aquinas 807 Liberal 775 Shawnee-Mill Valley 758 Kansas City-JC Harmon 751 Topeka-West 750 Newton 742
Medium School Class. take rest of 5A and add to top 32 in 4a to make the next 48 team class
Small School Class Take 16 smallest of 4A and add to to 321 and create Small School Class
These would move to Small Class Easton-Pleasant Ridge 190 Russell 190 Hesston 191 Silver Lake 197 Scott City 198 Cheney 198 Hiawatha 202 Hoyt-Royal Valley 208 Haven 210 Kansas City-Bishop Ward 210 Kingman 214 LaCygne-Prairie View 220 Hugoton 222 Colby 232 Meriden-Jefferson West 233 Girard 237
Three classes
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Re: Classification Change Proposal 1A,2A, - 22A , etc
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[quote=back in the day]Here is modest proposal for Peace The largest schools will be competing agains each other. The small schools will be competing against each other.
BIG SCHOOL CLASS Add 16 largest 5a schools to 6A making class of 48 of the largest schools.
these all move to Big Class Hutchinson 977 Emporia 927 Gardner-Edgerton 864 Kansas City-Wyandotte 859 Kansas City-Turner 859 Wichita-West 841 Topeka-Seaman 840 Salina-South 822 Wichita-Bishop Carroll 819 Tecumseh-Shawnee Heights 815 Overland Park-St. Thomas Aquinas 807 Liberal 775 Shawnee-Mill Valley 758 Kansas City-JC Harmon 751 Topeka-West 750 Newton 742
Medium School Class. take rest of 5A and add to top 32 in 4a to make the next 48 team class
Small School Class Take 16 smallest of 4A and add to to 321 and create Small School Class
These would move to Small Class Easton-Pleasant Ridge 190 Russell 190 Hesston 191 Silver Lake 197 Scott City 198 Cheney 198 Hiawatha 202 Hoyt-Royal Valley 208 Haven 210 Kansas City-Bishop Ward 210 Kingman 214 LaCygne-Prairie View 220 Hugoton 222 Colby 232 Meriden-Jefferson West 233 Girard 237
Three classes
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Very similiar to Missouri's setup. How do you handle the private school issue?
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Re: Classification Change Proposal 1A,2A, - 22A , etc
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I am not worried about Private Schools.
The older I get the better I was!
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Re: Classification Change Proposal 1A,2A, - 22A , etc
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I am not worried about Private Schools.
As in leave them in alone or get rid of them?
Will Cokeley (708)267-6615 willcokeley@gmail.com
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Re: Classification Change Proposal 1A,2A, - 22A , etc
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Here is modest proposal for Peace [SNIP]
Medium School Class. take rest of 5A and add to top 32 in 4a to make the next 48 team class
Small School Class Take 16 smallest of 4A and add to to 321 and create Small School Class
Three classes
It appears that you are missing 16 4a Schools somewhere. Check my math: There are currently 64 4A Schools 32 - are joined by the smaller 5a schools + 16 - move to 321a = 48 This would then be missing 16 existing 4a schools, correct? Did I miss something?
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Re: Classification Change Proposal 1A,2A, - 22A , etc
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My bad - should be 48 schools in Large school
Number of schools in Medium School would remain 64- add smallest 5a schools and subtract smallest 16 4a schools.
Will- I like Private Schools all they way around. Put them in the mix where ever they fit enrollment wise.
The older I get the better I was!
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Illinois Population 12,400,000 with 4 classifications in basketball and 3 in wrestling
Kansas Population 2,800,000 with 4 classifications
Minnesota population 4,900,000 with 3 classifications
Missouri population 5,600,000 with 3 classifications
Wisconsin population 5,600,000 with 3 classifications in wrestling and 4 classifications in basketball
I will check the number of high schools in each state.
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