I think Lucas meant in 1998 they sent 9 and in 1999 they sent 10.I would agree that some bigger schools have more depth, however there could be the 3 or 4 of the best guys in the state in the same bracket in 5a/6a, but it still seems that many schools have several opens, or very week teams.That makes for a bracket with 4 outstanding guys and 4 opens/below average guys.Also I would put a few 4a schools up against any 5 or 6a school any day of the week. Clay Center...Colby...Abilene...Andale, just to name a few.

I can not believe I wasted 10 minutes of my day reading all of this stuff. I could only wish to have that much time on my hands. One thing that hasn't been mentioned here is how much heart kids have when they wrestle. Like Big Pin said....stats are for losers. If you spend too much time looking at records you are bound to be highly disappointed or shocked. All over the state there will be the would of, should of, didn't. I can guarantee you that if there was a Power Rating Index in wrestling it would probably go in this order according to the teams wrestling at Ark City....1. Pittsburg 2. Ark City 3. Emporia 4. Bishop Carroll 5. Kapaun Mt. Carmel 6. Andover Central 7. Andover 8. Wichita West...this is only an opinion on where these teams wrestle. I'm from Pittsburg, but I can remember a hell of a lot of Ark City past and present win state championships with 25-12 records, etc. They went to the toughest tourney's around and when it came time for tourney time, they just let it loose. Don't look too hard at a record...heart is all that matters....and a little bit of talent

you have 48 wrestlers with losing records. of those 48 31 of them have less than 5 wins. Thats you competition. 31 guys with less than 5 wins? You guys are all in denial. THIS IS THE TUFFEST REGIONAL IN 5a where 64% of your wrestlers with losing records have less than 5 wins?

The big question is - Why the hell is Lucas Baker still posting messages? Give it up buddy. Who gives a *&@!#.

Im glad I could be your 9th post!

5A v 4A in a dual?

8 weights to 6..........5A wins.

GO back to my lil brothers post! Chief

In fairness, there are guys out there whose only claim to fame is pinning there way though the backside at State to take 3rd there Sr. year. I wonder what a person like that has for a Total High School Record. So what was your combined High School Record LUKE?

DID YOU BUY MY PLANE TICKET YET? I will show you the only record that matters.

Wow...That Bad HUH? Probably shouldn't be worried about everyone else's records then.

seriously? Sooner or later you have to give up the glory days and live life with the lessons learned in the great sport of wrestling. Or should I say grow up?

You just described 90% of the posters in this Forum!!! Still living and trying recapture the past, and probably vicariously in their son's sports. But that is what dads and coaches are for.

I was 65 and 25 in Abilene Beeson I never said I was good I have only stated the facts. WHERE IS MY PLANE TICKET so I can shut you up once and for all.

Hes getting mad cuz I proved his tuff regional is not tuff at all its half full of losing records and 75% of the losing records have less than 5 wins. Truth Hurts huh Beeson 5a not near as good as you think. Where is my ticket?

Agree 4A is tough, especially to get through a regional. But 5A and 6A state are certainly the strongest. First look at the across the board competition. 5A and 6A wrestle and place in more and better tournaments. 5a and 6A wrestle more bigger schools. Don't know much about 321A; but 4A, with a few exceptions, also wrestles smaller schools and smaller tournaments.

Been lots of talk on combining 5A and 6A. Senseless!!! If combined, that would be the State tournament. No need for 321a or 4A State Tournaments. Could work around that and give the smaller guys a place by only taking the top three from each 5A/6A regional bracket and then filling the 4th spot with a 321A or 4A top top finisher. This is about as crazy an idea as combing 51 and 6A.

Note: Missouri added a wrestling class in 2005(?) and most think wrestling is better than ever.

I am going into my bunker and wait out the coming firestorm.

Just for grins, maybe we should come up with a power ranking like they did here: http://www.missouriwrestling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12681

I don't necessarily think their criteria is the best but it's a start. Chief, how about doing that for next year? Should be pretty easy in excel given we come up with the criteria.

It would be fun to see and for no real reason other than to kill time waiting to see how it all shakes next weekend. Actually I'm kind of surprised no one has done it yet.

Good luck to all wrestlers these next two weekends...even those with losing records.

Is Ark city going to have live results? Or just post top 4 when it is all said and done.

Happy Birthday Lucas. Maybe you will get a plane ticket for your Birthday.

Thank you Don I dont think he will pay the 450 to get embarrassed in his home town.

No!