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03/09/14 01:19 AM
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what are your guys thoughts on kids Club kids doing middle school for the last 2 weeks. is that kosher are not cool?
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03/09/14 01:31 AM
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Tracy Peterson
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Re: middle school
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03/09/14 01:42 AM
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Wrestling the league tournament for middle school. yet only done kids club up tell then
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03/09/14 01:47 AM
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Sounds like a AD question why the would allow it.
Not right at all wrestle the entire year or none at all.
Tracy Peterson
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03/09/14 01:55 AM
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Seen it today! 2 different schools
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Re: middle school
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03/09/14 02:31 AM
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I don't know exactly what is happening, but there might be one situation where it might make sense. If the middle school wrestlers are "novice" wrestlers for the most part and the club kids are the better wrestlers, the club wrestlers would not gain anything by participating in the middle school program and it would free up the space for new wrestlers. But when it comes time for league, or whatever you call it, the best wrestlers all wrestle, middle school or club...
I know this statement will rub some wrong, but wrestling really isn't a team sport. It is an individual competition and and the focus is on individuals, not teams. So trying to get the club kids "on the team" isn't going to work because those club wrestlers already know what's going on and they know they aren't in a team sport. If they want to improve, they need a good coach, a good partner, and good competition.
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03/09/14 02:45 AM
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Wrong, apparently you have not been to a duel or watched college wrestling! Best times in this sport has been watching team mates cheering each other on to win the duel
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03/09/14 11:33 PM
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I don't know exactly what is happening, but there might be one situation where it might make sense. If the middle school wrestlers are "novice" wrestlers for the most part and the club kids are the better wrestlers, the club wrestlers would not gain anything by participating in the middle school program and it would free up the space for new wrestlers. But when it comes time for league, or whatever you call it, the best wrestlers all wrestle, middle school or club...
I know this statement will rub some wrong, but wrestling really isn't a team sport. It is an individual competition and and the focus is on individuals, not teams. So trying to get the club kids "on the team" isn't going to work because those club wrestlers already know what's going on and they know they aren't in a team sport. If they want to improve, they need a good coach, a good partner, and good competition. Rford - Agree and Disagree. Agree. You are definitely correct that when you dig way down into the weeds wrestling is an individual sport. No one will be there to bail you out when you are having a bad day or are just outmatched. You need a good coach, a good partner and need to wrestle good competition (good coach and good partner will help you take care of good competition). Disagree. Wrestling is also a team sport. These wrestlers workout together every day in practice, they root for each other and they want their teams to be the best that they can be. My son really bought into the team concept in Junior High and even more so in High School. In four years of wrestling State in High School, his greatest disappointment was not making it through to Saturday's competition in his Junior year (he felt that he had let his team down).
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03/10/14 12:56 AM
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Also in a dual momentum is a crazy thing, I have seen it push kids to get wins that they normally wouldn't.
That is why I really like the dual tournaments.
Tracy Peterson
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03/10/14 01:57 AM
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My favorite high school tournament our team competed in was the Olathe North Duals Tournament. I was disappointed when it got cancelled this year due to weather. You are right Tracy, there were times that wrestlers excelled because they knew how important it was for the team to advance. Crazy thing wrestling, an individual sport that can be overshadowed by a team concept.
Lee Girard
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