First I think it's funny how the word IDIOTS used in a non-directional way gets deleted but CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS can call a entire club out and not get deleted I guess it's a who you know type a deal,, sorry was not using word idiot as direct insult,was using in passing should have used CLOWNS,FELLAS,CRAZY GUYS,something a little less insulting...Confucious if you would have started your response with that post,then would take it/u seriously but trying to be a dime store comic defeats the point of making good debate over any topic,AGAIN MY APOLOGY IF I OFFENDED YOU IN ANY WAY..................... I dont think original post stated unfair because of physical maturity,body development,who has hair/who doesnt type of deal I could be wrong though,, I ve seen several post that discuss practice time,practice partners,toughness of practice etc... whether those are legit beefs or not is whole other topic but I believe that is alot of question in mind, I can honestly say my son is in 8th grade,his body matured a year ago,strong as a ox,his wrestling is getting close,he has gotten alot better just in the 3-4 wks that high schoolers have been in the room banging on him and Im glad for that so I buy in to that theory mentioned above,,I also believe that this weekend if it were just 8th graders in his bracket he would have great chance of walking away with whole thing but you throw in the freshman and now he faces a uphill battle and he knows this and is looking forward to it so in saying that does this make him less of wrestler or needing to step up or quit whining or other sarcastic jokes that have been used I dont think so and if you or anyone else does that is your opinion,,whether this weekend makes him a better wrestler or gets him ready for high school that much quicker I doubt it but thats my opinion,I wish all 8th grade young men good luck this weekend as well as all the freshman,in the end Im sure the best wrestlers in each bracket will work there way thru,some easier than others and that's what counts,again sorry if I offended you or anyone else earlier and I hope this doesnt get deleted so you can read my apology........