Now we are getting somewhere in this discussion. Randy's sign off says a lot about checking our motives. Are we making a "POSITIVE" difference in the life of kids? The last 5 or 6 posts have brought up terms like restrictive, petty, authoritative power and good old boy network. If taking away coaching passes hurts the kids, all of us involved in Kansas wrestling need to take a deep breath and GIVE THEM BACK. If it takes a specially called meeting to invite a quorum of club directors, let's get it scheduled. I have never understood why we can't have e-mail's sent to each club director asking for their vote. Can we not have a level of trust that they will be answered honestly? This state has too much to be thankful for to let these "petty" issues rob the kids of their joy.