I agree a lot with Cokeley, and Confucius, but I also think that every club should be represented by a member at the most important meeting of the year. Let’s be honest here, as a Head Coach of a club I need to be at the State Body Meeting, or have someone from my club attend. If my club is not represented at the meeting where the votes on ALL topics that eventually effect the kids in my club, who is at fault? Who is hurting the kids? The board members were there, 69 clubs were there, and some members here are blaming those people who sacrificed every minute to make sure that they had a say in what is happening in our origination. It sounds to me like the ones who stayed were trying to look out for our kids.

Think about this. If you go to work, clock in, stay till noon, and then leave. Would you expect to be accounted present for the whole day? I know my work would not allow this. What if a coworker left at noon? Would you fill that it is fair, that you have to stay, and he is counted present for the entire day, and gets his full wage?

Same thing with school. Should our kids be allowed to show up for roll call and then leave class early? I know that I would not let this happen in my home.

I think the “mob” needs to look into the mirror and ask “Was I there to vote on the subjects that would affect my kids, or was I just there to get another coaches pass?”

On the other hand the people who were there need to ask themselves if they made the correct decision, to punish without stating the rule first. Would you punish your child for not taking out the trash if you haven’t told them to do so? Would you ground your child for not getting straight A’s if you haven’t told them that it was expect. I believe that this was a quick decision that should have been approached differently.

I myself could not be there. I had a show to go to in Kentucky for work. As a head coach I found two members of my club to represent the kids in my club. They fortunately stayed for the entire meeting, as was expected, but not stated. Sure they could have left early, but they represented my club well, and I applaud them for that. I am proud that they stayed and tried to make a difference for all of the kids of Kansas.

I believe that all coaches should receive a coach’s pass at state; can we vote on this at the next board meeting? Like a lot of you have already said, all coaches volunteer time to help the kids of Kansas, why are they not allowed to get the rewards of coaching the same kids in the most important tournament of the year?


I know there are some legitimate reasons for not being able to be there, or having to leave early. I don’t fully agree with the decision that was made. I think that it should have been effective at next years meeting, but I wasn’t there to vote. So I personally lost my say in all the votes by not being there.

P.S. Can we get a better hospitality food for state. HaHa.

Ray Kramer
Head Coach
Goddard Wrestling Club