all of our 14 & 16s are former kids club wrestlers that we have coached since thay were 5 & 6 so thay are not hard to coach.and so what if they placed in HS state they want competition and in some cases kids club is harder than HS. look at colt Rogers 2X HS state champ,and last year at kids state got 2nd, and Gilliland? from Hoxie a 4x er HS took 3rd at 16 in kids.so lets not make 14 & 16s state a novice torny. It is fun to watch 6u and say (aww thats cute) and( wow that kid did this move and he's only 6) But to see the progres of the 8s, 10s 12s 14s & 16s is much moor exciting to me.