im not trying to win anyone over. I am just making a point that they are not getting the same as everyone else. I think the biggest thing is too many parents baby their kids at a young age and when it does get tough they quit. so like I said im done with you people. I will finish this year with my son and hope he wants to continue but I wont be mad if he doesnt. Seeing how i would have to deal with some of you as parents isnt a bad thing. by the way i never said my son was pathetic so dont even go there. I said he cannot compete with 8 year olds as a 6 year old. Guess maybe you just dont understand the difference in that age group. have a nice life.