Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
 Originally Posted By: haynes
chief, how can you say you guys are underdogs? we both have 8 state finalist, you have 6 thirds we have 4. you have one 5th we have 2 fiths and 1 fourth. pretty even you guys might even have slight edge, debatable. throw in you guys got to pick the two extra weights( for 2nd yr. rumor has it)plus you went at least twice as far to get at least 4 of your wrestlers as we did. it will be a great dual but i don't think you can play the under dog angle to dramatize it.


We are not big underdogs on paper, but we clearly don't have the hardware that MO has. MO has 3 unbeaten wrestlers to our one. MO has 8 State Champions to our five. As to your point about going twice as far to get wrestlers, Kansas does not have the luxury of having 5 wrestlers from one High School. Our top two High Schools that are nationally ranked are excluded by rule from this event. We'll wear the dog angle with pride. See you on Wednesday!


Chief,
So your point is since Kansas does not have their top schools in the metro, they should be able to go farther out to get wrestlers? Then we could call it the MO-Metro vs Kansas Classic

Haynes,
As far as who gets to be underdog. KS has a record of 579-39 witn an average state finish of 2 to MO 593-60 with an average state finish of 2.27. Pretty close but KS clearly has the better numbers with a 93.7 winning percentage.

KANSAS MISSOURI
W L PL W L PL
38 3 1 42 2 1
43 1 3 46 2 1
41 2 1 46 0 1
30 4 3 35 7 3
41 4 3 40 9 3 **
40 4 1 42 9 5 **
31 1 2 51 0 1
42 4 3 30 14 4
38 1 3 33 4 1
44 1 2 24 5 5
42 8 2 50 2 1
40 1 2 43 0 1
31 4 2 32 2 1
44 1 1 44 1 3 **
34 0 1 35 3 3 **
579 39 2 593 60 2.27
93.70% 90.80%


** These are the weights that a doubled-up. Kansas gets 3 champs and 1 third place against Missouri 3 thirds and a fifth place. However it turns out my guess is these weights will have a big impact. Not sure why Missouri would agree to giving Kansas this edge.