Well put. I think we've all been near or crossed that line, but there are some defining moments that point us in the right direction.

We all differ on what you find abusive. I look back and know that a lot of people would call the SRS if they had seen the marks pops put on me as a kid, but I know that I deserved them. If not for what he knew I did, but for what I got away with that he didn't know about also.

Losing a match wasn't the cause of any of the above "abuses". But poor attitude and bad choices was sometimes. And you can rest assured that he let me know that if I didn't work harder, I would be getting my butt handed to me, which, I'll be darned, he was right. At the time I didn't think that a guy that had never wrestled knew what he was talking about. Life lessons is what it is about. And if a kid has never been introduced to reality, controversy, etc. as a kid, how will he know how to react as an adult?