Re: state championship titles
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while we are on this subject. i just heard that bobby lashley has been cut loose by the wwe and is looking at getting into mma. I dont really remember ever seeing this guy wrestle and dont know how old he is. He must have been wrestling when I was away from the sport for a while during college. How good was he. I know he is a big boy now. Wait until they match him up with Brock Lezner. You know thats destined to happen sooner or later if they both find success in it. I was really impressed with Lezner even though he lost to Mir but give him a couple years and I really think he can be good. Lashley I think could be the same. I met Bobby Lashley at the state tournament and he told me he was going to go in to MMA! I also told him to do better than Lesnar, it was a good fight for lesnar. From what I understood from watching WWE he was a very good wrestler but I never have seen him wrestle. For real anyway!
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Re: state championship titles
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04/10/08 02:00 PM
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They test for Roids and HGH in MMA dont they?
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Re: state championship titles
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hey beeson did you wrestle mccreary from wellington. i think he was 152 in 90 but dont know about 91. he was a tough one. i would like to know how that turned out if you did get a chance to.
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Re: state championship titles
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04/10/08 04:44 PM
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Thanks for bringing that name up...my only loss my senior year...I think he beat me 6-2. Yes he was a tough one.
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Re: state championship titles
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sorry man. I had the great pleasure of wrestling him my senior year as well. I moved up from 145 to 152 at regionals and had to face him first off. He technical falled me. He took me down and let me up. That was the only time that I had never been taken down and let up like that ever. I wasnt what you would call a stud but I never really been dominated besides he and Matt Roark from Columbus. I do believe that same 152lb class at regional was the same first through 3rd at state that year. Talk about a tough regional. Mccreary, Lovell from Caney and Hale from Columbus.
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Re: state championship titles
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04/11/08 02:38 PM
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I think Doug Hoover is on the list of most State titles!
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Re: state championship titles
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04/12/08 01:38 PM
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1984 - (4A) Beloit [Beloit] (Team Champions Beloit 193, runnerup Columbus 81.5)
1984 - (4A) Johnson, Todd [Beloit] ( 98 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Treaster, Chad [Beloit] (105 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Johnson, Toby [Beloit] (112 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Creager, Brett [Beloit] (119 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Hull, Marc [Andover] (126 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Treaster, Matt [Beloit] (132 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Dalton, Chuck [Norton] (138 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Frazier, Rex [Holton] (145 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Adams, Jeff [Beloit] (155 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Wohlschlegel, Gary [Chaparral] (167 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Barnett, Todd [Colby] (185 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Beal, Jon [Atchison County] (Unlimited ) 1984 - (4A) Beloit [Beloit] (Team Champions Beloit 193, runnerup Columbus 81.5) 1984 - (4A) Johnson, Todd [Beloit] ( 98 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Treaster, Chad [Beloit] (105 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Johnson, Toby [Beloit] (112 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Creager, Brett [Beloit] (119 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Treaster, Matt [Beloit] (132 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Adams, Jeff [Beloit] (155 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Adams, Aaron [Beloit] 4th (167 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Beloit [Beloit] (Team Champions Beloit 193, runnerup Columbus 81.5) I can’t remember who else place for Beloit, but remember this is when there were only 12 weight classes, and there were only 4 medals awarded. Half of Beloit’s team were individual State Champions. I don’t know if anyone else who can boast this accomplishment. With all due respect to the great teams that have won the title, this is the best team I ever saw. They beat everyone they came up against including all the powerhouses of the time.
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Re: state championship titles
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If what I have been told is correct, That Beloit team had 11 placers and the 12th man was a match away(12 weight classes). He would have placed if there were 5th and 6th place medals given. That may have been the highest 4A number of points ever scored with 12 weights. This is especially tough in a 64 team division. Also consider the number of points given to the top 4 placers is 2-3 points lower when only 4 places are given. On todays scale with 6 places This team would have scored 25-30 more points and again, that is only with 12 weight classes.
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Re: state championship titles
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Would the other Beloit names be perhaps Klenda, Hewitt, Bemoit or Creager as I recall those also being Beloit standouts from the 80's. I remember those Beloit teams and being in awe of them. It was as if they had a mystique about them. Best I have seen and that includes other 80s greats such as Kapaun Mount Carmel, Ark City, Emporia, Clay Center, Concordia, Columbus and even Effingham.
That Ken Piazza must have been one heck of a Coach !
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Re: state championship titles
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I'm from Junction City, Lashley's home town. His senior year he was a state champ. I'm pretty sure he went undefeated that year.
Then he wrestled in college. It wasn't D-1. D-2 or something else. He won (i'm pretty sure) two national titles on the college level. He is a very good wrestler. Good on his feet.
Great with fans/kids.
D. Dean Welsh, Junction City ***Dean plays well with others!!! ;-)
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Re: state championship titles
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Lashley went to Missouri Valley with Beau Vest!
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Re: state championship titles
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I believe the 185lber was Mark Dietz. Mark could not beat either of the Adams boys at 155 and 167, so he gave up 20 to 30 pounds to be on varsity and placed at state. I would also guess that the HWT was a Heiman (probably Jay or Jeff). I think Klenda, Hewitt and Benoit were earlier than 84. Blaise should be able to help you out here.
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Re: state championship titles
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another reason Kansas needs a D-1 school. Missouri vallet takes alot of good kansas kids.
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Re: state championship titles
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Chad, I believe Whit Cox was our HWT in 90 - SQ, then went 1-2 at state. EM
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Re: state championship titles
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That is correct...my apologies. Whit Cox also holds the state record for the fastest pin in a dual, 3 seconds.
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Re: state championship titles
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1984 - (4A) Johnson, Todd [Beloit] ( 98 lb. ) 1st 1984 - (4A) Treaster, Chad [Beloit] (105 lb. ) 1st 1984 - (4A) Johnson, Toby [Beloit] (112 lb. ) 1st 1984 - (4A) Creager, Brett [Beloit] (119 lb. ) 1st 1984 - (4A) Blanding, Parrish (Beloit) (126 lb.) 3rd 1984 - (4A) Treaster, Matt [Beloit] (132 lb. ) 1st (3rd 4X state champ in Kansas) 1984 - (4A) Stover, Scott (Beloit) (138 lb. ) Qualifier 1984 - (4A) Riemann, Mike (Beloit ) (145 lb. ) 2nd 1984 - (4A) Adams, Jeff [Beloit] (155 lb. ) 1st 1984 - (4A) Adams, Aaron [Beloit] (167 lb. ) 4th 1984 - (4A) Deets, Mark (Beloit ) (185 lb.) Qualifier 1984 - (4A) Heiman, Jeff (Beloit) (HWT) Qualifier 1984 - (4A) Beloit [Beloit] (Team Champions Beloit 193, runnerup Columbus 81.5)
Here is Beloit's complete roster from 1984. Riemann just missed being the 7th state champ. Stover, Deets, and Heiman all were 1 win from medaling and would have under the current setup. This was also the team that put all 12 wrestlers in the Finals at the Norton Inv. and the Norton 4A sub-state. As I recall the announcer said before the championship round, "It's Beloit against the Rest". Beloit went on to win 6 straight titles, just missing a 7th. They also won 122 straight duals during 1980-1986, and didn't lose a tournament during that stretch.
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Re: state championship titles
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Ken Piazza came to Beloit in the early '70's fresh out of college from Mankato State (MN). I believe he was from the Chicago area. He built the program and was there through 1983, when Chris Sones was hired. Sones coached the 1984 team, and was at Beloit for 3 years I believe, then the current coach Andy Niemczyk was hired.
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Re: state championship titles
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Amazing run for 6 years 25 State Champions 6 State Team Titles 949 Team points
1980 - (4A) Hewitt, Mark [Beloit] ( 98 lb. ) 1980 - (4A) Brown, Steve [Beloit] (126 lb. ) 1980 - (4A) Beloit [Beloit] (Team Champions Beloit 126.5, runnerup Norton 98.5)
1981 - (3-2-1A) Treaster, Matt [Beloit] (105 lb. ) 1981 - (3-2-1A) Hewitt, Mark [Beloit] (112 lb. ) 1981 - (3-2-1A) Brown, Steve [Beloit] (132 lb. ) 1981 - (3-2-1A) Heidrick, Greg [Beloit] (145 lb. ) 1981 - (3-2-1A) Englebert, Leon [Beloit] (167 lb. ) 1981 - (3-2-1A) Beloit [Beloit] (Team Champions Beloit 181.5, runnerup St. Francis 97)
1982 - (3-2-1A) Treaster, Matt [Beloit] (119 lb. ) 1982 - (3-2-1A) Benoit, Tim [Beloit] (132 lb. ) 1982 - (3-2-1A) Brown, Steve [Beloit] (145 lb. ) 1982 - (3-2-1A) Heidrick, Greg [Beloit] (155 lb. ) 1982 - (3-2-1A) Beloit [Beloit] (Team Champions Beloit 137, runnerup Oberlin 91.5)
1983 - (3-2-1A) Johnson, Toby [Beloit] (105 lb. ) 1983 - (3-2-1A) Blanding, Parrish [Beloit] (119 lb. ) 1983 - (3-2-1A) Treaster, Matt [Beloit] (126 lb. ) 1983 - (3-2-1A) Hewitt, Mark [Beloit] (132 lb. ) 1983 - (3-2-1A) Klenda, Blaise [Beloit] (138 lb. ) 1983 - (3-2-1A) Beloit [Beloit] (Team Champions Beloit 189.5, runnerup Oberlin 98)
1984 - (4A) Johnson, Todd [Beloit] ( 98 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Treaster, Chad [Beloit] (105 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Johnson, Toby [Beloit] (112 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Creager, Brett [Beloit] (119 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Treaster, Matt [Beloit] (132 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Adams, Jeff [Beloit] (155 lb. ) 1984 - (4A) Beloit [Beloit] (Team Champions Beloit 193, runnerup Columbus 81.5)
1985 - (4A) Johnson, Todd [Beloit] (105 lb. ) 1985 - (4A) Creager, Brett [Beloit] (119 lb. ) 1985 - (4A) Deets, Mark [Beloit] (155 lb. ) 1985 - (4A) Beloit [Beloit] (Team Champions Beloit 121.5, runnerup Columbus 90)
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Re: state championship titles
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Any idea of Coach Piazza or Sones whereabouts these days as well as many of their wrestling greats ? I know I've recently seen the Treaster name at the kid level in 8 & Under.
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