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Re: 4A rankings - December 17 [Re: logans bro] #134085 12/19/08 02:02 AM
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name, grade, weight, match information? Those things are helpful. Thank you.


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Re: 4A rankings - December 17 [Re: wuthnow130] #134123 12/19/08 01:13 PM
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Ryan Wuthnow 6th at 160 might be questionable, especially with Lemon being 4th. Wuthnow wrestled the number 1 kid (Rempe) from 321A and the number 1 kid (Caldwell) from 6A losing by 3 i believe to rempe. Lemon loses to Anderson from Clay who is nowhere to be seen in any rankings (not taking anything away from Anderson, but I cant wait to see Lemon and Wuthnow wrestle if Lemon is actually a 4th ranked caliber wrestler.

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They are all questionable in my opinion.


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Re: 4A rankings - December 17 [Re: RedStorm] #134141 12/19/08 04:14 PM
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I think both Weller and Seaton are great, but Symon beat Derrick in their only meeting that I know of this year. Should Symon not be ranked above him?

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Re: 4A rankings - December 17 [Re: 24/7] #134148 12/19/08 06:47 PM
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Drake Lovvorn Soph at Holton placed 6th at Eudora losing to Cameron Jesseph by a take down in overtime.

Re: 4A rankings - December 17 [Re: logans bro] #134212 12/21/08 05:37 AM
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Taylor Baird of Pratt Beat Soucie of independent 8-4 in the pratt finals 2 weeks ago. i was wondering why Soucie is ranked number 2?

Re: 4A rankings - December 17 [Re: wrestle strong] #134214 12/21/08 06:53 AM
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Thank you, there are some matches I was not aware of that I am being made aware of, updates will be made after Christmas, but feel free to rank those kids however you want until then.

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Re: 4A rankings - December 17 [Re: RedStorm] #134225 12/21/08 02:10 PM
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Anderson from Clay Center did beat Jess Lemon in the very first match of this season. I am surprised to see that he is not ranked but I expect he will be by the end of the season. Anderson is a very good wrestler and has improved a lot this year.

Something that may be interesting to note: Before the duel with Clay Center, Chapman wrestlers had only two days of practice as they spent most of the first and second week getting their wrestling room back together (it is still in a mess as everyone - hs basketball, jr basketball, hs and jr high wrestling, cheer, dance and even music programs -are all using the only gym left after the tornado which in itself is still having work done to repair the roof, sides and parts of the floor. If you look at the pictures of the damage, you will notice that the area of the gym that took the biggest hit was exactly where the wrestling room use to be located. In fact, the words that you see that says dedication, determination are from the INSIDE of the wrestling room. Take a look at http://usd473.net/ ).

This year is definately a time of adjustment for all the students, staff and athletes as the school moves forward. But the future looks very bright....one of the new features being planned and will be built by next year is a large wrestling room/gym that will be located between the district gym and the new middle school gym. (of course, with the weather in the single digits, I think the biggest thing everyone can't wait for is having hallways located inside a school instead of having to walk two blocks outside between each class).

Re: 4A rankings - December 17 [Re: mom4] #134230 12/21/08 03:04 PM
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Ryan Wuthnow (6th at 160) beats Chase Wells (3rd at 160) 5-3 at the Royal Valley Tournament.

Re: 4A rankings - December 17 [Re: logans bro] #134233 12/21/08 03:50 PM
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sorry that i did not clarify his weight and grade but Taylor Baird is a 10th grader at 160. He beat senior Derek Soucie of independent. I personally saw the match and Baird was throwing Soucie around.

Re: 4A rankings - December 17 [Re: wrestle strong] #134236 12/21/08 06:07 PM
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Derek Soucie is currently out with an illness that he was also suffering from at Pratt. He was not wrestling any where near his potential and I would argure the point that Taylor Baird was throwing Soucie around. I'm confident this will be sorted out later this season when Derek is full strength.


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Re: 4A rankings - December 17 [Re: mom4] #134249 12/21/08 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: mom4

This year is definately a time of adjustment for all the students, staff and athletes as the school moves forward. But the future looks very bright....one of the new features being planned and will be built by next year is a large wrestling room/gym that will be located between the district gym and the new middle school gym. (of course, with the weather in the single digits, I think the biggest thing everyone can't wait for is having hallways located inside a school instead of having to walk two blocks outside between each class).


Hopefully the process is a speedy one.

Re: 4A rankings - December 17 [Re: logans bro] #134255 12/22/08 02:31 AM
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Well now that independent is a 4a school Soucie and Baird will see each other at regionals. Hope to see a good match from both.

Re: 4A rankings - December 17 [Re: RedStorm] #134279 12/22/08 12:50 PM
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11th grader, Josh Rodriguez should be ranked at 145 I seen him beat Morgan Numrich 7-1 at goodland , and Cody Hill twice earlier this month. his only loss is to C Bontz,by one point.

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Pratt's Bortz (189) defeated (189) Bowman WHS by an 8-0 major decision at the Pratt Tourney as well.

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Correction...9-0.

Re: 4A rankings - December 17 [Re: Go Time] #134427 12/25/08 04:25 PM
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Keep an eye on Flannigan-160- from Colby. He did not wrestle last year, but from watching him on the mat, he is a wrestler that will make some serious growth this year.


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Re: 4A rankings - December 17 [Re: Crossface King] #134529 12/29/08 12:24 AM
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Are there ever going to be any updates here

Re: 4A rankings - December 17 [Re: 2coach] #134548 12/29/08 06:33 AM
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They will be updated later this week. I am enjoying the holidays, but will try to update before most of us return to school next Monday. Then some very large tournaments next month will make the process that much easier. Plus Coach2 doesn't think that this old Hays boy has any love for the SW part of the state so I will do a little more looking through past results. To my knowledge though, I think Hugoton and Ulysses are the only 4A schools left in that part of the state and sorry to say, not a lot of news comes from out there so rather than post with cryptic messages, names and results would be very helpul on this forum. I get e-mails from Colby and if I need Coch Lippelman in Scott City, I just dust of my CB and call his handle. I used to date a girl in Russell, so I keep some tabs on the Broncos, but outside of the NCKL & Wichita area, what 4A teams are left west of Topeka?? In otherwords, post information or PM me information that I may not have. We want to consider any and all wrestlers for the rankings and hopefully be as accurate as possible.


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Re: 4A rankings - December 17 [Re: RedStorm] #134552 12/29/08 12:45 PM
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RedStorm I never meant anything bad about you sir, but you hit the nail on the head with Hugoton and Ulysses. They have a couple of strong kids there. Look at that 145 pounder from Ulysses and the 140 pounder from Hugoton them kids should be ranked in the top 5 in any class

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