i've got an idea, let's all pick a date. show up and argue all you want for five hours. in the end we will give you all medals and call you debators. this is a free website,and i feel that you should be able to post any thing you want and hide your identity if you feel the need. what i don't think needs to happen is to get on here and banter back and forth over stuff that has nothing to do with anything. cokely like i said before, stop getting drug into the street. if you are truly proud of what you and you sons have done in this sport (and you should be), then you don't need to come on here and battle. if you guys want this to be a forensics website, keep it up. if you want to keep it a wrestling website, then contact me, i'll set up the time, place and supply the ref. sportsfan02, keep to the subject at hand, or stay off the site. again this is a wreslting site, not forensics, or english.