Yes my son is with ECKW and the coaches there are wonderful and do help alot but I am just seeing what other coaches and clubs and people have to offer after reading all the post it seems everyone does things differently and that is good I like the diversity the problem is when in a club you are at the mercy of what they teach and i just want to see whats out there see what is all the things we can learn and thrive on and use we are still young with alot of time left to learn but you can never have to much knowledge..My daughter will be goin to practice with the Krusaders and they are going to help us too so I have the clubs behind me just curious what others are doin and what they think and do to get their wrestlers ready for any situation..Thanks for your suggestions