This has been an interesting thread. I still dont see how it will work. I belive that most clubs would take the time & effort to give accurate info. I still dont see any idea on here that will solve the problem of inaccurate info. Hats off to the clubs that want to try this. I think that all clubs should WEIGH ALL WRESTLERS AT THURSDAY PRACTICE & send that info---no guessing. I dont think cheating will be the problem it will be guessing & mistakes. in the last two years I have been brackeing tournament at rossville there have been apprx 25 weight changes per tournament with on site weigh ins. As I said they are easy to change before bracketing approx 10 seconds per wrestler. After bracketing it takes aprox 5 min. you must reprint new bracket & bout sheets affected & remove affected bout sheet from tables & replace with corrected ones. I would guess 25 weight change after bracketing would take 1-2 hours to fix. Thats 4-5 min per change. This would not be acceptable IMO.

I really like the idea of RWI. I know we can figure out some guidelines and make this a very good option for some tournaments.
I try to see both sides and the credability of the weigh ins seem to be the big hang up.
The other thing would be kids that are moving around in weight classes. A kid wrestles all year at 58 and then at a RWI tournament he drops to 55. Not a big jump but maybe enough to raise a little question as to the honesty of weigh in.
I think there are some negatives but there are a lot more positives.

I think we (the talk forum) needs to keep coming up with possible loop holes but when we do, try to have an answer for it as well.

TOGETHER we can make this a very usefull resource for next year.

JMO

solutions, that all you need. i think that registered official should do the remote weigh ins. most if not all communities have one. the re- bracketing shouldn't be such a big deal. is it really that big of a deal if a tournament is started 30 minutes late? as was said in another thread no one sets out to do any of this on purpose. mistakes and accidents happen. i have seen seedings on 1 bracket take 30 minutes, then 4 totally different kids qualify. my point is start trying to figure out ways to make it work, start setting guidelines and work your way through it. change it as problems arise. i mean this is a wrestling forum, it's not about being easy, or quitting when a challenge arises. stop thinking of ways to not try, and come up with ways to make it work, we have done it in the past. it will work.

Pelland,

As Shawn said we did not have a remote weigh-in.

We did Friday night, Saturday AM and Saturday mid day weighins.


The weight errors were not entered incorrectly by our club. They were the weights that were sent in by the clubs.


One great aspect of Trackwrestling was that we had the general format of the tourney set prior to final entries and just had to adjust a few brackets affected by the changes and we were set to go.

"Sent in by clubs" now can we know how Kathy Juby feels when we can't get it together for membership and coaches?

Good ideas Josh in regards to Change.

BLT if a kid is going to drop to 55 just because of a RWI that's incredible .... and unbelievable ethics that a club would allow the kid to drop down and he doesn't weigh the weight. It's truly dispecable that a club and coach would stoop to falsification bottom line.

And then who knows how many kids that have truly wrestled falsely? Because bottom line they're not winning there either! So go figure--in the RWI's we've been involved with.

So you guys didn't use Trackwrestling? The trackwrestling entries I have sent in have a list of the weights to click on, you don't type it in, so it would be hard to "send in" an incorrect weight wouldn't it?

One other question that you computer geeks can answer for me. Is there a way on trackwrestling to "save" a kids' info so that when you type in his name, his USA card number, birth date, etc pops up so I don't have to pull my file out every tourney to reenter that same info?

Thanks
Doug

I'll move the above post to the trackwrestling suggestions forum

Doug747, Once the kid is entered into TW you can "assign" them to your pre-registration login. That way any tourney that is using TW you login, find the kids assigned to you and check which ones you are entering, confirm their weights and then they are entered. You also get your invoice at that time to show how much you owe the club (assuming they are not using online payments).

I just did this for our kids we entered into the GEWC Novice tournament. If the kid isn't in TW yet, you can do it at that time and they will be saved for your or anyones use at a later time.

That's a good topic to document the process. thanks for the idea!

I think I have them all registered now. Just waitin' for a TW event to go to!! To see if it was worth while. So when I want to register them for a tourney, where will I click first? List of tourneys?

Correct, click the tourney, click pre-reg, login and from there you will see the list. If the kid isn't there, there is an "add" link. PM me if you need help I'll walk you through it.

Thanks. Actually I almost have all the kids' birthdates a nd USA card numbers memorized I've typed them so many times, be it TW or entry forms...!!!

Doug