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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: usawks1] #138304 02/05/09 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: usawks1
Again, as a few have noted and Richard Salyer supplied ... there is a State statutue that is being violated if you chew on public school property!

Again, it is NOT on the property but rather IN the buildings according to state statutes. Some schools have their own rules that prohibit tobacco use on all their property some don't.


Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: sportsfan02] #138308 02/05/09 10:51 PM
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I mis-stated! My apologies!!


Are you making a POSITIVE difference in the life of kids?

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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: usawks1] #138340 02/06/09 06:44 AM
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Whos job is it to watch this.Because the refs cant be babysitters do you leave it up to the head of the tournment or what. Who watchs on the high school level the ad or Princpal.who?? Being a wrestler for many years at all levels i have seen it in done at high school and college locker rooms and even as a coach once or twice. I myself am a dipper so i say you leave it up to the coachs to police themselves and members of their team/family whoever.Unless at every tournment theres a poor sucker who has to go around and do mouth checks and what not.


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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: Conrad1] #138355 02/06/09 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: Coach C
Who watchs on the high school level the ad or Princpal.who??


For the most part, at the high school level coaches are mature and respectful enough to where it is not an issue.


The fact that girls are forced to wrestle at state in the middle of the week is laughably sexist.
Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: DamonParker] #138357 02/06/09 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted By: DamonParker
Originally Posted By: Coach C
Who watchs on the high school level the ad or Princpal.who??


For the most part, at the high school level coaches are mature and respectful enough to where it is not an issue.


Darn, immature disrespectful kids coaches. When I grow up I want to be a high school coach.

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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: PatrickCavanaugh] #138362 02/06/09 03:10 PM
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I'm not saying that all kids coaches are immature and disrespectful, but I don't recall seeing a 7 page thread on this topic on the high school board!


The fact that girls are forced to wrestle at state in the middle of the week is laughably sexist.
Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: DamonParker] #138375 02/06/09 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: DamonParker
I'm not saying that all kids coaches are immature and disrespectful, but I don't recall seeing a 7 page thread on this topic on the high school board!


And eight of the repies are from you! I think that coaches in High School are more concerned about there athletes obeying rules, staying eligible & winning duals & tournaments then what another grown man has in his mouth!

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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: PatrickCavanaugh] #138379 02/06/09 06:18 PM
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You get the last word, Pat. I'm done with this one.


The fact that girls are forced to wrestle at state in the middle of the week is laughably sexist.
Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: DamonParker] #138380 02/06/09 06:36 PM
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Most High School coaches are fully aware of the rules and contracts they have signed. It takes a coach with a pretty cavalier attitude to ignore the ethic clauses most have signed!


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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: DamonParker] #138381 02/06/09 06:38 PM
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well at least one good thing has come out of this topic, i quit smoking yesterday, have not had one since and i am done for good.

bad thing is my wife made me join her and 2 other women in our local biggest loser contest, great time to quit smoking and start a workout program.


"Saints should always be judged guilty until they are proved innocent"

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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: nix] #138382 02/06/09 06:43 PM
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NIX, your gonna end up dying for no good reason.


Lazy hands make for poverty,
but diligent hands bring wealth.
Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: luellen] #138383 02/06/09 07:19 PM
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People will be talking at your funeral about how healthy you look.

Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: windjammer] #138384 02/06/09 07:38 PM
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Would wearing the nicotine patch count as a violation, or puffing on a plastic nicotine inhaler to curb the need !! Or is it only limited to certain digestion methods ? ..... I dont smoke or chew " anymore " and frankly cant stand walking into a tournament at 6am and smelling all the beautiful toxins right in front of the entry door..... And Im sure the kids dont care for it either. After all, its an event for them not for the adults and a little respect for others always goes a long ways... my 2 peso's worth.

" grabs paddle to give the pot one last stir " lol

Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: Director007] #138391 02/06/09 09:50 PM
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oh the famous windjammer has set his sails again i was just wondering where you had been good to hear from you. and of course michael luellen. gotta say last year was a little funner with you two always on here. but we have some new comics as well that keep it intersting.

well i have the weight to lose let's hope wind and michael are wrong about the dying and funeral. lol

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"Saints should always be judged guilty until they are proved innocent"

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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: nix] #138392 02/06/09 10:09 PM
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and what does having 7 pages realy have to do with anything i believe jeff brodbent and patrickcavanaugh and randy and so many others have made some great points on both sides of this debate.

so if we end up with 30 pages everyone's being cival and making some good points.

now it's time for a smoke and cookie, just playing don't tell my wife i almost had a weak moment. (ALMOST)


"Saints should always be judged guilty until they are proved innocent"

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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: nix] #138397 02/07/09 12:43 AM
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windjammer,

Awesome avatar! Sure beats that creepy caped thing we saw last year (just kidding, kind of). I can't watch it long though, it makes me a little dizzy. I am sure that all of us have wanted to bang our heads during kids' wrestling tournaments. I thought that I would give you a great tune to bang your head to. This was a favorite group of mine to listen to on the way to high school wrestling duals and tournaments. Cut and paste to your browser and enjoy the music. Rock on Quiet Riot.

[url=Ihttp://www.actionext.com/names_q/quiet_riot_lyrics/bang_your_head.html]Ihttp://www.actionext.com/names_q/quiet_riot_lyrics/bang_your_head.html[/url]

I'm an axe grinder, pile driver
Mama says that I never, never mind her
Got no brains, I'm insane
The teacher says that I'm one big pain
I'm like a lazer, six string razor
I've got a mouth like an alligator
I want it louder, more power
I'm gonna rock it till it strikes the hour
Chorus
Bang your head
Metal health will drive you mad
Bang your head
Metal health will drive you mad
I'm frustrated and out-dated
I really wanna be over-rated
I'm a finder and I'm a keeper
I'm not a loser, and I ain't no weeper
I got the boys to make the noise
Won't ever let up, hope it annoys you
Join the pack fee the crack
Well now you're here, there's no way back!!!!!!
Chorus
Metal health will cure your crazy
Metal health will cure your mad
Metal health is what we all need
It's like a heart attack!!!!!!!
Bang your head wake the dead
We're all metal mad, its all you have
So bang your head and raise the dead oh yeah
Metal health it drives you mad, mad, mad, mad
Chorus
(Over chorus to fade..)
Ah get your straightjackets on tonight ohh
The bad boys are gonna set you right
Oh rock ya, rock ya, rock ya


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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: ReDPloyd] #138398 02/07/09 12:57 AM
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OK, try this link instead. It even comes with a video.

http://new.music.yahoo.com/videos/QuietRiot/Bang-Your-HeadMental-Health--2146234


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Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: ReDPloyd] #138399 02/07/09 01:02 AM
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dangit nix i told you to stay off those darn cookies or it will turn you into the pillsbury dough boy.


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I had to get in on this one my first post. If you believe a rule is a rule, are you going to start ejecting people after the announcement made at EVERY turny PLEASE SIT DOWN NO ONE IS TO BE AT THE MAT SIDE EXCEPT COACHES AND WRESTLERS ON DECK. I for one would be happy to leave if any of my behavior is against the rules but you have to remove EVERY ONE ELSE TOO for all their miss behavior. You can not have your cake and eat it too. Be a good sport is more important than tobacco. As I see it this is one rule that is not going to change you would have to get the state on board.

Re: Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!! [Re: jhbmlbx2] #138476 02/08/09 03:26 AM
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jhbmlbx2 -

Read the entire thread.

Then let me know if you dont understand the fact that the use of tobacco products is strictly prohibited by NFHS RuleBook.

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