I just don't know what he was thinking, they use to have grand state before, and it meant a lot even to get third, or fourth, there should be no fith or sixth i would say, but man if we did it his way, why don't we just go in the back yard and do it old school. No refs, score, time or anything mister hard core! I would have gotten to go four times, but don't think I would have showed up for a single elimination tour. Not worth my time at the end of a hard season.