i am talking about normal everyday tourneys!! woodward coaches told me at liberals tourney they drive ast least 3 hours one way every weekend to go to wrestling tourneys!! you add on 2 hrs and 15 minutes to guymon from woodward you are close!! woodward does not have a tourney they have a program!! amarillo is 2 hours from guymon!! and liberal is 40 miles, hugoton is 30 miles so which is closer for them to go to????? to me the only thing is that they SUPPORT ks tourneys and only ks tourneys and that should say volumes what there intentions are and they mean well in the respect that they are doing it for the right reasons!! and how is it hurting ks kids??? so should all ks tourneys be off limits for anyone but ks kids????????