spotsfan2,

I actually wrestled in high school for 4 years, so yes I know the difference. When I started their was an unlimited HWT div. so I know the difference there as well. High School has their own season apart from the kids for obvious reasons. By the time you get to high school you should have the maturity to wrestle older kids. Although I am sure some parents could argue with that as well. An eight, ten or even 12 year old is not the same, they don't respond the same way. I have already posted before that I am against 6 y/o wrestling at state for the same basic reasons. They are not mature enough as an age group to wrestle there. That is a coach/parent driven situation.

You seem to have the same kind of flawed mentality that a lot of people in authority positions take with larger kids. Just because your big doesn't mean you are more mature. My son may look 15 y/o but just turned 10 in late Dec. Everyone, it seems has higher expectations of him due to that. The fact is he is still ten and does what other ten year olds are doing and thinking. I am already dealing with the Jr High and High School girls confusion over him, not fun.

That is why we have age groups so that their is some equality in the maturity levels. Size is another way we break it down. Maturity, in my opinion is far more of an advantage than size when it comes to wrestling.

When you say studied to death, I have to take your word for it. I have never seen the data and prob never will. It would be nice to show you raw data to the contrary but I don't have access to it. If you happen to have it I would like to look at it. For now I go by the complaints I've see here from this year and from years past and also what I have seen at tournaments. That data tells me that there are many kids being left out. That is current data not date compiled 5 years ago. Nobody wants a free ride here just the opportunity to wrestle their own age bracket. What is the problem with that?

I just don't get what drives you to be so antagonistic in regards to this matter. Adding a heavy weight div to some of the younger divisions would not hurt anyone? Show me differently and explain to me why other neighboring states seem to handle it just fine and we can't.

I don't care to be called a "Whiner" but if that's what it takes to get it through to people then so be it. I like to think of myself as an Advocate of big kids and kids in general.