I would be ok with the 6under stand alone state if they didnt have to wrestle 10 times in one day. They dont get seeded very well. I know they try the best they can but if your going to do it then lets go all the way and do it right. I was there last year. It was much better than it was the year before. The one thing I didnt like was all the best kids were on one side of the bracket. Most of those kids were from the Wichita area in the brackets I was talking about. Thats the one thing I would like to see changed. As for the 16 under tournament you can say the same thing as you keep mentioning about the 6under. the highschool has their own stand alone tournament in the highschool. That is no different than the 6under except for its a highschool sponsored event. 6 and unders dont get the respect they probably deserve. some say its a learning stage. i cant say that it isnt. so i am ok with the stand alone if its ran just like the rest of the tournaments as far as seeding for the top wrestlers.