There are a number of important issues being raised in this thread. However, lets start with what I thought was the purpose of this threa - how do I get a card for my son for the Fall Brawl without giving Missouri any money. Last year I had to buy my card in Missouri. This really bothered me. I grew up on the Missouri/KU border and I hate Missouri. Now Will said if I had just called him he would have gotten my son a card. But, why is it Will's job to get all the Kansas kids, who's clubs are not up and running that early in the year, a card so they can compete in early tournaments. Its alot of work, and he doesn't charge extra. Sorry for the tacky comment, but we need a system to allow the early starters an opportunity to buy cards in September. Last year I contacted Kathy about this, and was told not possible, I had to go thru a club. This, and the old policy on coach's passes, has resulted in people chartering clubs just for their own kid and a few friends.

Doug makes a good point, what about a tie-in with track wrestling.

Second, the issue of paying someone a salary. Yes, that is what it appears to me. Now I know she is working hard. I was the secretary/treasurer of my local union for a number of years and know the extra time you put in. We got a small amount each month to cover out of pocket expenses. That was it. If you go over that you start running into regulations involving with-holding for Social Security and other taxes. Not knowing how much work Kathy does, I am in no position to judge if the $2 a card is appropriate or not. But, I hope the state body has covered itself in regards to any tax obligations we may have assumed by doing this.

Third, I have read all of Will's posts on this, I think he is just asking reasonable questions. They have been somewhat answered, but not completely. Maybe a full posting of the monthly expenditures would help. At least they should go to the club presidents.

Finally, from my limited viewpoint - as just the father of a kid who wrestles - I think USA Kansas Wrestling does a good job. I do not want to see a whole lot of changes. But, we have to be careful - we will make this sport so expensive to get started in that alot of people will stop trying it. We will begin limiting our growth just by cost. We want High School kids to stay out for our state series - well $35 for a card, then club fees, for what, 4 tournaments at most(assuming they only do in state tournaments). A lot are not going to do it. TOO expensive. However, we need the state to make money and help cover the costs of things like Middle School Duals and the freestyle duals, or only certain kids will be able to go. This requires a balancing act, that does not allow for a lot of perks for our board. Its about the kids!!!

Richard, you voted for the increase - due to someone being under paid - what club coach or official isn't. That is why its called being a volunteer.

Will's last post really hit it, thats alot of money - $148,000 - should be enough to do it all without alot of increases.