87% of 80 is 69.6, and since the website has the incorrect amount of student listed what makes you think that amount of money spent per student is accurate? And by consolidating schools you are not only putting countless teacher out of work you are also putting perfectly good buildings to waste.

So we should keep perfectly good buildings open even if it is costing all Kansans more tax money? I am curious how you know Douglass never had 80 students in its junior class, Do you do a census of the number of high school students at this school on a yearly basis? The state is cutting education dollars every year, It is just a matter of time before these schools are consolidated, These kids can get just as good of an education at a consolidated school than at a small community school, isn't that what its all about or is it about about unemployed teachers and empty buildings.By the way the 87% graduation rate doesn't just apply to the junior class it would apply to all of the students in the high school, Your figures may be a little off unless their are only 80 kids in this school.

You are the one that said that the school only had 80 students. And let's say that Douglass has had a junior class with 80 students in the past, this still makes the information outdated. If it is outdated, then all the other statistics are probably outdated as well, and if the state is "cutting education dollars every year" then that would make the amount spent per student significantly lower than what the website had posted.

The information on these websites is not updated immediately. It may be 1-2 years old as with any data you find. This school has a 87% graduation rate. If it had 200 students in the school that means 26 students would not graduate. So if the junior class started with 80 students they could finish with 59 and still be within the 26 that dont make it. This is basic 6th grade math.

That would mean that all the other grades only had 40 people in each of them. which isn't plausible in the least bit. and you would also be saying that most of the dropouts are concentrated into one class, yet again probaly not going to happen. but how about we say that all of the classes have 80 students in them. that would make a total of 320 students. Let's take the total number of students and find out what 87% of them is 320x.87=278.4. Now lets take the 87% and subtract it from the total number of students, 320-278.4=41.6, that leaves us with 41.6 people who do not graduate, lets divide all these students amongst the classes, 41.6/4=10.4, which means that approximately 10 students per class drop out. this leaves us with 70 students left to graduate. Which is a much more realistic scenario.

That has to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard! ? I realize the business world and the academic world are two different places but I wonder how many businesses would keep the doors open, and employees on a payroll, of an inefficient failing business just to keep a building from sitting empty . The taxpayers deserve a financially efficient education system . Consolidation would save millions of dollars that could be redirected to resources aimed at giving the kids of Kansas the best education possible. That is the goal, not keeping buildings open .

The consolidated schools would absorb a lot of the displaced teachers and definitely fewer administrators would be required. THIS IS A GOOD THING ! Welcome to the real world!! The education system should not be set up as a welfare system to keep the greatest number of people as possible employed.


As far as the data not being accurate down to the last student and last penny, come on are you serious!! The figures are not updated continuously in real time how could they be? They do represent a snap shot in time that is accurate enough for a comparison. Do you have better info ? Your having trouble seeing the forest , it seems a few trees are getting in your way.

http://www.greatschools.net/test/landing.page?state=KS&tid=77,

go to this website and compare the test scores of large 5a and 6a schools to some 3a schools, with an exception of the Blue Valley Schools and a few others none of the schools are even close to matching up in test scores. Maybe this is because at smaller schools there are more teachers to students. Believe it or not, more teachers per students means that the kids can get more help when they need it. therefore in my opinion leaving the smalls schools would give Kansas kids a better education.

This is a good point.

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This has gotten totally stupid. I thought it was about KSHSAA stopping people from exercising their rights. If I am right consolidation is irrelevant - doesn't the State give each school district X amount of money per student - then the extra they spend above that is on their own - coming out of their own property taxes.. Which if I am right means I do not care how much the Western Kansas schools spend. Which also means Will did what he wanted - got the KSHSAA supporters in an up-roar and got a good laugh.

The point is the 3A schools are going to have to accept that kids are going to specialize. They are going to start just doing one sport thru high school. This means the football team is going to lose kids. In small schools if the athletes do not play all sports - some sports will not have enough kids for the school to field a team - threatening coaches. As such, KSHSAA is helping by making it difficult to specialize. That is what all these restrictions are about. But it is a losing battle. So lets debate this.

The point is - if a school wants to go to ANY tournament - why shouldn't they be allowed to.

12/5 Gardner – 1 Day
12/12 Tulsa Union – Mid America Nationals – 2 Day
12/19 Johnson County Classic – 2 Day
1/9 Derby – 2 Day
1/16 Bobcat Basehor-Linwood – 2 Day
1/23 Denver Centaurus - Top of the Rockies – 2 Day
1/30 Garden City – 2 Day
2/6 Silver Lake – 1 Day

Andy,

SJA is hitting a little tournament in Oklahoma too... This rule prohibits Kansas kids from being able to showcase their talents on the biggest HS wrestling stages.

Look at it from this perspective. The rule was developed by calculating the maximum miles a school could travel within the state (approximately 500) and then making the rule "500 Miles from the border." This means that a school can travel 1000 miles. But... only if you travel across the state first. Does that make sense? If it doesn't make sense why should we stick our heads in the sand and let it remain the rule?

I hope no one mis-understood my comment that its a losing battle. I believe KSHSAA will ultimatley lose. The restrictions on off-season practices, etc, will be loosened. Parents realize that in most schools for their kids to have sucess in a sport they are going to have to specialize in only one or two sports. At some point, the parents will win.

And, really people should go back and look at the posts on the KSHSAA audit - talk about high salaries during bad times.

In closing...please write your AD a letter requesting that they propose and support the removal or at least an exception process to the existing travel limit.