Mark, re read the post, your definition of walk around weight and my definition of natural weight look like the same. Did you listen to the audio link? I think you will actually like it as we seem to be on the same page. I likely agree with you on this issue more than you realize if you listen to the audio and then go from there. The truth of the matter is, as was the intent of my post, that many do cut weight at a kids level. Anyone saying otherwise have never been to many tournaments. I don't encourage it or like it. I will say that if at the start of a week of practice, that a kid is a pound or two over a certain weight, that by the end of the week of practice, if they practice and eat appropriately, that they will loose a pound or two. There are also differences between a morning weight and an evening weight. Education as to how to determine and maintain a walk around weight or natural weight in a healthy way is critical. That was my point, parents need to be educated as to how to do this as do many coaches. Truth is, that many Under 6 and Under 8 parents have their kids cutting weight. I don't like it, don't support it. I even know parents that have had their kids go down as many as 3 and in a couple of cases 4 weight classes in a given year. I personally know of a kid last year around 100 pounds at the start of the season that finished right at 20 pounds less. My personal belief is that this is abuse or neglect at best. Nathan has wrestled up many times, but has never not made weight, and he wrestles near the same weight through the year by working hard and eating right. He has tried to shortcut the process at times and has gotten into trouble for it, those around me know that. As to cutting, if that means not eating, I wish someone would come to my house and help pay the food bill from all of the food he "don't eat" but does something with, from his "cutting." My firm belief is that you cut, from eating more, more of the right types of food which the audio link goes into a lot of detail about.