Salina,s tournament had 8 kids entered at 10 and under HWT. 7 showed up and wrestled a good bracket just like everybody else. 4 0f these 7 kids I know won,t be able to make weight and participate in the state series next year because they are already at 170 right now. they will be good this year but by next year they will be no less than 190. then they wont be able to cut weight and meet 170. and there are so more kids we are talking about. go look at the 8 and under Hwt at maize. Stacked. It wasnt like that last year. Trying to make lighter kids cut weight 1 to 5 is a chore for alot of you. Try asking your 10 year old to cut 25. Charlie/Wichita Aztecas

The thing this year there are alot of novice kids @ HWT , alot are football players. Maybe a closer look at more weight classes to try keep these kids in. Wrestlers make better football players.(maybe)

My point bowen more weight classes more kids wrestle less combining. How many kids don't wrestle because they know they can't go to state? It would be intresting to know. dean70 I have a 10 year old at 130 I couldn't get him to cut 5 pounds let alone 25. So lets talk to our district reps about more weight classes. Do it soon the have a state excus meeting in the next week. They start talking now maybe something can change for next year.

we are from district 2. what district are you from n7m?

so bowen, what is wrong with a bunch of HWT novice footbell players? This would be good for KS football anyway. any 3 of these kids will be top notch KU or Kstate football

The weight classes have been studied to death and the results of those studies are the weight classes that you see. If your kid/kids want to wrestle they will wrestle up during the regular season and hopefully we can get the by-laws amended to solve the qualifier and state issue.

It's great to see these kids that play football, my son wrestles only to play football better . If it wasn't 4 BLT my son would not even have wrested this year and if it wasn't 4 him getting his hinny kicked by bigger kids that was 25+ lbs he would not have worked really hard to lose 15lbs. I feel the pain of not haveing enough weight classes and if we can pressure on the board it might not change for my son but who knows. (maybe)

Here is what I do know. I'm sitting at home with a first place finisher of USJOC and Tulsa Nationals in the 10U HWT Div. We haven't been able to get him into his own age group in KS this year as of yet and come state time he will not be able to participate in his own state's tournament due to him not being able to lose 25lbs. Granted he's a man among boys in his age group, but that doesn't mean him or anyone else should have to wrestle up an age group. The rules are busted the kids aren't

Do not forget he was the Outstanding Wrestler for 10U.
Wow
Theres no room in Kansas for wrestlers like that!!!
WHATEVER!
lISTEN,
I'm done complaining about this.

I want someone from the State Body to get on here and tell us what they are going to do about this issue OR I want them to get on here and hear them openly give their Official Stance as to why these kids will not be given an equal opportunity to wrestle even though they feel its ok to collect their money for their USA wrestling card.

dean 70 I am from D4 and this weekend we had a tournament that combined 10 and under 130, 150, 170, and hwt. Kid that took 2nd busted his rump but was weighing 133 and lost to a kid that weighed 180

I talked to a state rep today. he informed me that we are all on the same page with this. what we have to do is get 2reps from each district to agree on the change. i asked him what was the solution? we agreed that adding an unlimited weight class was ok. i feel pretty strongly on this ammendment. 6 and under, unlimited weight class, 8 and under unlimited weight class, 10 and under unlimited weight class, 12 and under unlimited weight class, 14 and under unlimited, etc.... that should fix the controversey. BLT, we are gonna get this done. period. i will keep complaining.

Charlie
Who did you talk too. What is their name so we can start making a ckeck list.
Are they going to make a propsal at the next meeting. What is the wording of that proposal.
n7m13c99 do you know the reps from your district. Can you talk to them and see if the would be on board.
Anyone from D1 or D4 support this type of change and are willing to get face to face with their reps and ask for support and report back here.
We have got to get organized and move on this or it will get passed by and forgotten until another meeting comes around.

Invitational tourneys are allowed to add an upper class but it cannot happen at the qualifying events. There is some discussion going around about how we can do this when our by-laws have set exact weight classes for each age group. I am going to our mid-term exec board meeting this sunday and should have more to tell you when I get back.
BLT we have been talking to them. Hopefully we will know something on Monday.

Blt what i was told was we need votes at state meeting from all 4 districts. and what district 2 wants theres always this guy in district 1 who gets in the way. where is ditrict 1 anyway?

and why doesnt the freestyle director dont get involved? i don,t know?

dean 70 D1 is basically the eastern 3 counties from nebraska to oaklahoma. From Brown county down to cherokee county.

What is it that district 2 wants?

we want state in Wichita. and we want changes to the weight limits.

Of course District 2 wanted to have state in Wichita. I think even the "guy in District 1"would not have minded having State in Wichita. The problem is Wichita did not want to have State in Wichita.

At the District 2 meeting, not one club representative brought up changing the weight limits.

Make sure you are saying what District 2 wants, and not what you want. There are proper channels for making changes, several were made this year. Complaining on this talk forum does not get change. Submitting changes for the board to discuss does.

Well said Beeson! I attended my first state meeting and had voting rights for my first time. It was very enlightening to see how stuff actually gets done. I saw club directors stand up and explain their proposals in a straight forward yet professional manner. Like I've learned from my local newspapers bloggers, you don't get much done complaining or trying to call people out on a forum (especially if your anonymous), but you have to think of a positive way to present your idea to the right channels so it can get done. It sounds like you guys are passionate for the change you want, so keep the path. There are always more who feel the same way you do but just aren't vocal about it. Words typed on a forum are one thing, but standing up and giving your name in a state meeting and explaining your dilemma are another thing. Good luck and I hope the best for you.