Well said Beeson! I attended my first state meeting and had voting rights for my first time. It was very enlightening to see how stuff actually gets done. I saw club directors stand up and explain their proposals in a straight forward yet professional manner. Like I've learned from my local newspapers bloggers, you don't get much done complaining or trying to call people out on a forum (especially if your anonymous), but you have to think of a positive way to present your idea to the right channels so it can get done. It sounds like you guys are passionate for the change you want, so keep the path. There are always more who feel the same way you do but just aren't vocal about it. Words typed on a forum are one thing, but standing up and giving your name in a state meeting and explaining your dilemma are another thing. Good luck and I hope the best for you.