Originally Posted By: HEADUP

yet YOU have 1,745 posts. do you really BELIEVE that the message boards are a useless tool for stating your case?

I never said that! It is a wonderful place for discussions but at the same time it is not, nor has it ever been, representative of how even a slight number of people feel. Every week something happens to remind me just how little this board is read by those involved in this sport. Doesn't mean we can't have fun cussing and discussing but in the end the real decisions will be made by those willing to take time out their personal lives to attend the meetings. For all the talk about the weight issue on here, I am told nobody showed up to address the executive council about it. And that is exactly as it should be! First sell your district meeting on any changes and then if successful try to sell it to the state body.

Originally Posted By: HEADUP
i think BLT ASKED a pretty straight forward question as to how to go about changing the rules, yet recieve a couple of roundabout, beat around the bush, condescending answers, that barely answered the question.

I think I answered in a straight forward manner! Because people don't like mine or others answers they try to circumvent the process to get things changed. I said from the beginning I intend to introduce an amendment to allow wrestlers to wrestle up one age group for qualifiers and state, which should alleviate the weight issue. If it is the intention of some on this board to try to go backwards to unlimited weight groups I would fight that tooth and nail. I as well as others on this board worked long and hard to get the weight classes we currently have in order to keep kids from walking thru state for a medal. I might add, some of those were my own club's kids too who were walking thru. Bottomline was and is, it is what is best for the obese kids, this organization and wrestling as a whole.

Originally Posted By: HEADUP
BLT, HOSSUS,DEAN70 AND OTHERS may feel that this is the best place to enlighted others of their dilema. where's the harm? they may or may not be the only folks in the state, but using this forum can be used to recruit others to join their fight. now if they FAIL to make a formal proposal at the district level (at very least), then complain again, i see a problem. until then, let them speak.

Sometimes I get the sense that many of the people who ask these questions do not belong to a club. Do they have their own private clubs? If so, that is sad. Do they not have more experienced leaders or members to explain how the processes work? I know that people like Beeson and myself along with many others have had the good fortune to be mentored by those above us at the club level. People with many years of experience at the district and state levels. I would like to think that we are the general rule and not something of privilege in the way our clubs function.