It is not just my son i am representing on here. i can see this happening again in the 8 and under down the road to kids that are not even wrestling yet. maybe you headup and sportsfan02 are correct. wrestling up might not give a kid a sense of accomplishment today. and they won,t appreciate it until years down the road. I will agree to that part. I took a look at the results from 2009. Not everybody would be happy with a proposal for kids to wrestle up. I would be ok with that compromise. How would you decide who is elgible to wrestle up??? Next thing you know, the kids wouldn,t be working as hard to get to state. I dont know all the answers. that is why I have got on this forum. This is the tool for all of us to communicate what is right for the sport and the kids. So I would like to see more input. I also see that studying the brackets can be overwhelming. But it would be worth it if these kids have the opprotunity to wrestle for the finale every year instead of seeing that the can play but not in the playoffs. they are defeated before they get started. sportsfan02, what exactly would be in your proposal?