actully your wrong in the fact that those other sports you have to win to advance. sorry just had to point that out to you. Like I said before in my opinion the Kansas State tournament is different. its supposed to be about all the hard work those kids put in all year to get to the big daddy or big dance. I know there will be mixed emotions on this topic but for me I would feel better knowing that I had to work at it to get there. Thats just my opinion.