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This past fall we changed the 16 & Under to a High School Division so that everyone who wrestles in high school can keep wrestling for a few more weeks.

If you are able to wrestle 14 and under you can choose to wrestle that or in the high school division but not both. If you are 15 you must wrestle in the high school division.

If you have any questions please feel free to give me a call.

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Be sure to register through a club and buy a USA Wrestling Card. There will be no late entries so get it done soon!

Will, clear your box man! I tried PM'ing you and got this:

"Cokeley is over their Private Topic limit."

If you have a wrestler that just turned 15 this past month thus meeting the criteria for 14 & Under class as he has a 1995 birthday and was 14 at the season start--does he wrestle the younger group or the high school division ? Being that he would be at the very bottom age wise in the high school division, he would prefer to do the 14 & Under if he is able to do so. --help anyone with a clarification ?

Pardon my stupidity and for asking, but can someone explain the differences between freestyle and folkstyle wrestling. All I come up with it's called folkstyle at the college level and freestyle at high school. Must be some other differences, rules, scoring--other than riding time in college, etc. Why are the kids wrestling folkstyle if they will be doing freestyle in middle and high school?

They don't do freestyle in middle school, high school, or college. It is all folkstyle. Freestyle is olympic style wrestling. We are one of the few countries that actually wrestle folkstyle. I assume that folkstyle is considered more safe, and therefor more suitable for schoolastic competition. That is the major reason we are not as dominate in the olympics as we should be.

Have you ever actually watched a wrestling match or are you just that clueless?

I'll include some links and brief descriptions so you can educate yourself.

Freestyle is an international form of wrestling that focuses on take downs, specifically leg attacks. This is one of the two styles that is competed at the Summer Olympics, along with Greco-Roman. Score is more judgment based in Freestyle with anywhere from 1-5 point moves depending on elevation of the opposing athlete with a throw or impressive takedown. Freestyle has a season that can run year round if you compete internationally. The primary time that Kansas youth compete is from April to July.

Folkstyle is wrestled primarily in the United States. The scoring is less subjective, with takedowns gaining 2 points, with the chance of 2 or 3 near fall points. Bottom or mat wrestling is more of a focus in Folkstyle. The NCAA, high school, and USAWKS wrestling seasons typically run from November to March.

Yes I am clueless and yes I have been watching HS freestyle for 17 years. The only Greco Roman I have seen was on TV--the Olympics--plus some I recently watched on YouTube. Greco Roman looks like a good way to break somebodies neck or upper back!

Also, I though more aggeressive moves and elevation was a characteristic of Greco Roman, not of Freestyle as you say. Have never seen a 5 point throw in Kansas HS Freestyle.

Also, is it not Folkstyle that Kansas youth do from April to July.

Still do not understand, nor did you address, why kids do Folkstyle if they will do Freestyle in MS and HS.

Thanks anyway for not a lot!

They do not wrestle freestyle sanctioned by middle school and high school teams. Freestyle wrestling is done by wrestlers of any age from April to July. The actual high school and middle school season is only folkstyle, which takes place from November through March.

Also make sure your high school division heavyweights do not exceed 275#.

You need to learn how to read and comprehend. I explained it "clear as mud" and Curtis Chenoweth gave a little more input. If you've been watching wrestling for 17 years how are you just now finding out the differences?

Also, you've never seen a five point move in Kansas high school "folkstyle"? Have you heard of a Lateral Drops or a Head Lock? Both of these moves typically net 4 to 5 points when executed in a match. Tristen DeShazer and Ross Taplin had two of the best head locks in the state and have used them with much success at the collegiate level. Watch the movie "Vision Quest" it is full of Lat Drops.

Pardon Me! Have always called it freestyle for reasons unknown.

Have still never seen a 5 point move in freestyle---ops--folkstyle'---lateral drop or a headlock. Are you not combining two moves--a take down and then near fall points--to me that's different than a single 5 point move. Is there not a five point move in Greco based on "grand amplitude" taking the wrestlers feet over his head.

If you are a Lansing fan, didn't Spenser Blew pin Kash Biddle of Ark City in the 135 state finals last year in a headlock? If he had not gotten the pin Blew would've likely received 5 points, 2 for the takedown and 3 for nearfall. I've heard Blew has thrown numerous headlocks during his prep career, so I'm sure you've seen at least one 5 point throw.

The headlock is honestly one of the most commonly used moves in the kids club division and can ruin a wrestler. In some cases like Tristen DeShazer and Ross Taplin it can give them great success.

Another wrestler from a few years ago that executed throws for Lansing was Ryan Civils. Who I can remember Lateral Dropped, Jesse Strawn of Holton, at the Kid's State Tournament for 5. I'm sure this was not the 1st time Mr. Civils threw a lat drop.

Spencer Blew doesn't headlock anybody. And he did not headlock Biddle. But he is the master at turning and pinning you from the top. Around 65 pins in two years.

Ricky,

Technically those are not considered 5 point moves in folkstyle. The socring is broken down as 2 pts for takedown and then 3 pts for nearfall if held for a 5 count.

This scoring is different than the 5 pt move in freestyle or greco. In freestyle the determination of whether a takedown/throw is 5 pts depends on the level of arch in the throw (not explaining this very well) and if your opponent is directly put in danger. There is no requirement to hold your opponent in a nearfall position in order to get the 5 pts.

Most of the head and arms and lateral drops that you are using as examples would be 3 pt takedowns in freestyle.

Contrarian,

Our middle school programs and high school programs are folkstyle programs. Some of those kids transition to the club and wrestle freestyle and greco in the spring and summer. The scoring and criteria for scoring is very different in freestyle vice folkstyle. There are a significant amount of different rules between the two.

Think I should sent a nasty gram to Ricky asking how long he had been watching and analyzing wrestling.

Nah. Don't think so. Enjoy reading his comments. He brings a certain panache' to the forum. I am sure a journalist of Ricky's standing will not have to look up panache in the dictionary.

Keep truckin Ricky!!

It's still a 5 point move if properly executed. 2 for takedown plus 3 for nearfall equals 5 points off one move. I know it's not the same as in Freestyle or Greco-Roman but it is still the same move being executed. Typically if you get a headlock or a lat drop that sticks you don't switch off to another finish, so it is the same move.

19 Weight Classes for HS Subdistricts.

High School:
100, 105, 110, 115, 120, 125, 130, 135, 140, 145, 150, 155, 160, 165, 175, 185, 215, 245, 275

So why can't we have a weight distribution like this for high school?