i dont think the 8th grader wrestling the frshman discourages the kid from going out in HS. I think the thought of that same 8th grader when he gets to HS wrestling the SR is more discouraging. That and the fact that the yhave to give up so much of their sat. time is were the problem is, but thats another topic, I see no problem in the 9th grade kids wrestling the 8th graders, at some point every dog has his day. At the same time why are we worried about losing time on this and losing time on that lets be posittive and support whatever plateforum we have the kids see adults being negative they can be negative, negativity breeds negativity.. I jsut asked in the original post what Freshamn were going to wrestle through kids?????