MR. Cheif Renegade. I have one thing to say to you. You have some 8th graders that are at the top of 14 and under.You talked of making a 13 and under age group earlier in the forum but you don't realize that their is still going to be 7th and 8th grade wrestlers in the HIGH SCHOOL brackets for kids. I would think you should agree with letting ninth grade wrestlers wrestling 8th and 7th. They may get beat but who knows. My coach told me, "to be the best, you've got to wrestle the best." and that's true. those 9th graders can think they're big and bad but when those 7th and 8th graders are in high school, they could have improved over those one or two years and just come back and kick some tail.