Spenser is improving and he is a good kid so I hate to see the debate but Quagmire you need to have a reality check. Spenser lost to Brandon Vukas at the Sunflower State Games, yes he beat Oliver, big win, but Oliver beat him in Freestyle the next day, Pierce was up a weight class and is clearly (Being a National Champ) better at Freestyle. Spenser is a soph and doing everything to get better but I would have to see him beat Baughman or Penka head to head before I would put him that high. I think it is a disservice to young Spenser. He placed 8th in GR in Fargo, awesome but that was in Cadets this is Cadets and Juniors. Oh yeah, when and where did Pierce beat Penka? Moeder beat Pierce last year at the Oklahoma open at 135 so I am guessing it has been YEARS since Pierce and Penka wrestled.