i think we all have to take a step back and look at this as a big picture. our goals are to produce these kids to get to the highschool level. if the kids are not having fun they will not want to come back. if they dont come back our numbers will take a hit. the way it is now we have very few complaints. yes every year there are 1 or 2 tournaments that someone complains about a kid. novice is a beginners to get them ready for the next level. my 2nd year 6 year old is what i call and in betweener. he gets his butt kicked at the opens. he has wrestled 1 novice and won. had one close match and ran one move. had one coach complaining about him using a cradle. he ran the move cause thats just about all he knows. he tries to bull his way and it works in novice but not opens. i say stop the crying let the young kids have fun and get the open kids ready for the next level. get the kids ready for jr. high. get the jr high kids ready for highschool.