i think the point that you are missing on the mat, is that your questions were answered, very frankly. we can all tell that you didn't care for the answer you got. you need to get over it and move on. you are really digging a deeper hole with each new post. i can see that somehow feel by questioning the heart and work ethic of these young men, and the decision making ability of their coach, that you are attempting to motivate them. good intentions i am sure, but i don't think you are coming across very clear.