Sorry I meant 285 instead of 189. I guess last i knew was that they were open after 160. the dual rankings is a good idea and I was just giving some info to start. The rankings would also mean much more if there was a dual state that the rankings could live up to. I think that some of the ideas that are being discussed would be on the right track but it is going to be hard to actually get KSHSAA to go along with the idea.