Quagmire. I dont want to get into a peeing match with you, however if you been around wretling long enough you will know of kids who get a double bar arm and plant both knees in front of the opponents knees and use the forse created by pulling them over the knees to return the unprotected athlete to the mat. Im sorry this is a slam. The idea that an opponent has to be lifted completely in the air and then returned to the mat is wrong. I guess we can disagree. There is a difference between a slam and unecessary roughness. A slam is unecessary roughness that requires you to slam your opponent into the mat. Lastly it is impossible to achieve a slam without some sort of lift involoved.