it's just that "everyone" "wants" a grand state, but we really can't figure out a better way. i think badbo might be onto something, let's ask the kids what they want.

probably the most suggested grand state structure is a 16 man, bracket composed of the top 4 from each classification. the date would be one week after the current state tournaments.

why can't usawks promote this?? remove the hs division from kids state, and have a tournament the week after hs state. make the brackets up as mentioned before, using 5th and 6th placers to fill in for no-shows.

just ideas, no0ne trying to say kids state is anything better or a "real" grand state, and i hope that chief knows me enough to know it was tongue in cheek. everyone appreciates what he does. btw he will usually stand up for himself if he thinks someone has crossed his "line" lol.