lucas hang on and follow again. at the concordia regional there are 13 weight classes right? 16 man brackets right? multiply 13x16=208 possible wrestlers. take the ark city regional, same 13 weights, 8 man brackets. 13x8=104. still with me. you list records for only 153 wrestlers at concordia, 208 possible minus 153 actual (208-153=55). 55 equals the number of byes in the concordia regional, compare to 0 byes for ark city. still there? we are back to my original numbers, you have to account for the vacancies or wrestlers with no record. you can not leave out this information. follow? now continue your research young pupil. you have mentioned time and again that 5a should combine with 6a. fine take the campus regional and combine it with the ark city regional and add those numbers up. then come back and see me. look i'm not trying to make you look silly, but you just can not leave out useful information like 55 empty spots in the regional. those empty spots must be reflected in your report. i'll give you a c-.