Lazyman,

I don't disagree with anything you said. I guess I didn't clarify on the duals thing....let me try....

1. We are trying to figure out how to improve our standings at Fargo. I my opinion that starts with improving our number of kids that compete in freestyle and greco. My observation is that the kids really enjoy the duals. Yes we do Schoolboy, Cadet, Junior duals. My point is that maybe if we could develop some kind of program that does more dual type tournaments (not necessarily all national stuff) then maybe kids would do more freestyle and greco in the off season. The trip to Colorado is a perfect example of what I am talking about.

2. As for your third point...I understand about Fargo and the coaches. That comment was more directed to Will's comment about the NHSCA event vice USAW folkstyle Nationals. However, I do think that if other events created an environment where colleges could set up booths and kids could go around and meet the coaches plus get info on the schools then you may attract additional kids.

Now as for the rules are rules....yes they are however, I would debate that they have been in effect for quite some time. The only thing consistent with the rules established for international wrestling is that the constantly change. The push out rule only came into effect in the past 3-5 years (can't remember exactly), the infamous ball grab is fairly new but oh that's right....it changed in just the past year also.

Are all these changes bad...no. The main point is that there seems to be a growing separation between freestyle and folkstyle. Wrestling freestyle doesn't necessarily equate to additional success in folkstyle as much these days at it used to. That was my only point on that.