Well then....this is really not a rebuttal, it is more like a defense.

Don't know what "wrong" coffee is. I only know of one kind, the kind that contains caffeine. I guess I can thank doug747 for making the silly left-handed coffee comment earlier that you apparently took serious because you don't know me. Thanks Doug.

Don't know about the "liar" thing but I do know what skew means. Skew does not mean "viewed in many ways". It means "twist or distort from true value". So I can logically see that if someone did skew intentionally, that would be lying. And if you knew what skew means you would indeed be calling someone a liar. Your athlete analogies have nothing to do with "skewing". That's called comparing apples and oranges which was what we would be talking about if we were indeed comparing Roberson to Cokeley as far as number of wins. Perhaps you were looking for a different word. I did not skew your comment to come up with my own derogatory comment. I only took your comment "skewed" at face value. I of course struggle saying these things to you because they could be considered derogatory but you are really breaking my back over this and now I have to defend myself. I am not the bad guy. I was trying to honor and support the kids that have worked so hard to get 100 or 150 wins because the comments about "luster" did indeed take "luster" away from those accomplishments. I really don't see it any other way.

Don't know about the "wrong side" of the bed. I wake up on the same side of the bed every day, the "right side". I am always happy to get up and go to work because even on my "worst" day, I still get paid and I can still pay my bills and provide for my family. But thanks for being concerned and asking.

I don't think anyone was trying to "read more into wins and losses", I certainly wasn't. We were trying to recognize kids that had reached "milestones". Certainly no one ever said that any particular kid was better than some great wrestler from the past because they had more wins. Most were just saying hey, "this kid has reached this "win milestone", congratulations to him".

But this discussion should not be about skewing, or coffee or the bed. It should be about the kids that reached 150 wins or even 125 or 100 wins this season and about recognizing those kids and celebrating their accomplishments. It should never have been about Roberson or what ever else came up. That's what I am saying.

I know that this is long winded, but I am just addressing everything that has been brought up against me.

And now....

travis24's comment can only be taken one way as I see it, the way it was said. It was a rhetorical statement and the "luster" comment made it clear what he was saying. At least that is how I saw it. Apparently others did as well. To me it was like saying well.... 150 wins is not that big of an accomplishment now because kids wrestle more matches and by the way how many losses do they have", like that really even matters.
Maybe I should have just said "yes right Travis, 153-0 is more impressive than 150-10 but we are trying to celebrate kids that reached 150 right now and not concerned with how many losses they have so let's not get off track". So I guess that's on me for "opening up a can of worms" huh.

I do not understand why you keep bringing up Cokeley. I am not sure how many "numbers of ways" any of his comments could be taken because I really didn't even get into that component of this discussion because that was a seperate issue and the comments did nothing to detract from the 150 win celebration. It seems it was more about the undefeated aspect, good or bad. I have no issue there.

If you tell me that your statement was taken differently than intended, then I accept that and can say sorry, my bad.

I am sure that my comment was taken as "antagonizing" by you because it contradicted you I guess. But I am also sure the kids that took pride in their 100, 125, 150 win accomplishments didn't take it that way. They were probably glad to hear that not everyone thought that their accomplishments had lost "luster".

And now I better go get some more coffee because I am really feeling "run down", or should I say "run over".