Thanks Johnson, you are totally right.
No Spectator, what I am describing is nothing like freestyle, you are totally wrong, with all due respect but thanks for the input.

Why we don't do FS in America is a separate issue that I am not really interested in discussing right now but obviously if we did just FS like everyone else we would be much better in international competition.

There is no riding in FS. Stalling is not an issue in FS although there is passivity. Even my tilt is not really a FS tilt per say. I didn't say you could do gut wrenches or leg laces or anything because I certainly never said I was for locking hands. I said you couldn't score from a neutral position so you must first establish control which is not FS. What I am talking about is any standard folkstyle tilt where you work to set it up and turn the guy but you just don't hold him for a 2 count. That is still folkstyle, it is just rewarding a guy for turning another guy and since you don't hold him for a 2 count, you just get 1 point instead of 2. Setting up a pin hold and turning a guy takes technique and effort and I believe you should be rewarded for that because you are working for the fall. Why should you get nothing for your effort because you have turned a guy for 1 second instead of 2? You should be rewarded for working for the fall and turning a guy regardless of how long you hold him there. The other guy is rewarded for his effort of getting off his back because he only gives up 1 point instead of 2 or 3. Sounds like a great arrangement to me that rewards both wrestlers and preserves the integrity of folkstyle wrestling. I am really not a proponent of the push out rule, I just threw that out that I wasn't necessarily opposed to that.


Now let me restate my Christmas list so it's easier to follow and handle.

#1 Continuation on edge in HS like we have in college. Rewards aggressiveness, technique and effort.

#2 Riding time in HS like we have in college and used to have in HS. Rewards technique, effort and control.

#3 1 point near fall for no 2 count to reward wrestlers that are working to turn guys and are working for the fall. Rewards their skill, technique and effort.

#4 Reevaluation of stalling call and more official training so the call is made consistently and fairly, or do away with it all together. Doesn't punish kids when they shouldn't be punished.

Is that better?
Still don't expect everyone or anyone to agree with my Christmas list but it is my list isn't it. My parents didn't always agree with my Christmas list either so its ok.